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'08/01/03 FRI 11:55 FAl[ A RATTAN IfflOOl CMBASST or SAUDI ARABIA WASHIMOTON, O. C. 9/11 Personal Privacy FACSIMILE TRANSMISSION DATE: FACSMILE NUMBER: m°M: NUMBER OF PAGES(inclusive of thu page): FACSMILE NUMBER: (202)944-6750 TELEPHONE NUMBER: MESSAGE: PLEASE DELIVER UPON RECEIPT THANK YOU i-m A ium AW BO!STON 1 « 2/ /3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Pull Name Nawaf Bark Blnladen Rcem H»mz» ABBT DmvSaleh Ahnadou<£ Fiiul Said) Alnuidotidi Mohammed SaJeh Bbil»<Jen Saiman Salem Binlidin TamarjKhaHl Budaden Sana'a Mohammed Bialaden Mohmmed Awed AUohj Hasan Awed A(JoW DOB I Addreu School Harvard EXWision SfnuticiRS College Tel Suffolk Univenity New Enjlwd School of English Curry College Tufts UnlvBrtity Simmons CoJleer Harqard Bxienfion Morth Eartern Univershy North Eastern UniWrrity Maid accompanyinjj Sana'aM. 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Wuhingion, DC Hyatt fork Hotel, Washington, DC ENTS RELATING to REPORTS FOR ANY THE FLIGHTS through f **»*" WfNSIVE TO #30-2 f[P£ckET #1] COMMISSION COPY 9/11 Personal Privacy \. 10-6-95) -1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/21/2001 t±=f 4OHAMMED SALEH BIN LADEN, Caucasian male, date of birth place of birth Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabian . i.o« p.assport number I ~1 United States visa| I home of in Saudi Arabia Post Office) pbstal code | \n Laden stated that he is the nephew of USAMA BIN LADEN. His 'father is MOHAMMED MOHAMMED BIN LADEN, the half-brother of USAMA BIN BADEN. Bin Laden has been in the United States, on a student visa since,September 8, 2000. He returned to Saudi Arabia in the summer of 2001, anri. rpt-nrnftd nn September 4, 2001 to the United States to resume school\at I | Bin Laden lives with FAISAL ALMADDUDI (male), and OMAR ALMADDUDI (male),.who are his "assistants." \n Laden stated that to his knowledge he has never met his uncle, USAMA BIN LADEN. Bin Laden stated that he had no knowledge of the WORLD..TRADE CENTER terrorist act, the highjackings of AMERICAN AIRLINES Flight 11, and UNITED AIRLINES Flight 175. Bin Laden stated : that no one within the local Saudi Arabian community approached him, or \d him tp assist or support any other Saudi Arabian students, known ;;or unknown ^o him. Bin Laden further advised that his father has [directed hint, to return to Saudi Arabia. A lawyer in New York, New York, j ~jrepresents the interests of the bin Laden Family of Mohammed Mohammed bin Laden. Bin 'Laden provided no more information at that this time. j9/ll Law Enforcement Privacy Investigation on 09/13/2001 • -. ; Date dictated File* 2 6 5 - D - N Y - 2 8 0 3 5 0 by SAT ----SSA\___ ' 1 Bureau of Diplomatic Security, Dept. of State ___ j(JTF) This document contains. nekher recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your aBWj&« n n A ri f\ 9/11 Personal Privacy ED'-302(Rev. 10-6-95) -1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/14/2001 Nawaf B. Bin Laden,/ I \Trooperl \ Massachusetts State Police and thereafter provided the following information: His \father\is Bakr Bin Laden who is a half-brother to Osama Bin Laden\ Osama has fifty two half-brothers and sisters, the majority of "which dp not live in the United States. Currently, in the. United States are the following: Abdullah -I Shafig Najiah I (half-brother) \s advi - AtXa meeting/conference in Washington, DC (half-brother,) - Los Ah-geles, California telephone number |_ (half-sister) - Resides at'L (half-sister) - Visiting in Florida \Sana Khalil \) According to Nawaf B, Bin Laden his father is the eldest of the\Bin Laden family. Approximately eight years ago the family met, and discussed Osama after his exile. The family and particularly his father as head of the family, disowned Osama. His father is a Saudi Arabian businessman who heads the Saudi Bin Laden droup which is mainly a construction business. Nawaf was asked if he has ever been contacted by any Middle Eastern extremist group. He stated he detests the fanatical groups and will not even entertain a conversation Investigation on 9-13-01 ** L Date dictated File U 2 6 5 D - N Y - 2 8 0 3 5 0 ky [ 9/11 Law Enforcement Privac Tnis document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your "WS'X « « « « n o 9/11 Personal Privacy (Rev: 1.0-6-95) V\6 • , . .On 9-13-01 Continuation pfF-p NAWAF B. BIN LADEN concerning it. He did relate a telephone call he received in April., 2001, shortly after moving to I I/ from Tys.pns, Cprner, Virginia. A male spoke in Arabic requesting mone.y. fie informed the caller he did not speak to strangers and huhg.up\y two days later a man who spoke in broken English Vhich he swears was the same caller, stated he was an investment, banker and wanted Nawaf to invest in a fund. Again he tipi'$ the caller no. This time he noted a 703 area code and the riame on. the caller ID to be a common Arabic name similar to Mohanuned. or \Hassan. Nawaf stated the FBI could determine the name because\he recalls looking it up on the Internet. Nawaf has AT & T as .his,internet provider and looked up the name on the MSN\white pagd-s. \f prov'ided his uncle Mohammed Bin Laden' S cell phone numbed as: I | who works in the family business a.nd,was last in the United States in May, 2001, for a visit. \f provided the following as a contact number for Nawaf \proVided the following contact number for \a (LNU) as : 1 I who was Mohammed Bin Laden 's ^.personal assistant and resided in I I when she lived at Nawaf is\further described as follows Name: Address: Nawaf B. Bin Laden Telephone: DOB: SSN: Education: FOB: Employment: REQ. 30-2 000000003 9/11 Personal Privacy fD-302a(Rev. 10-6-95) \0 ""•-..... ContinuationofFD-302of NAWAF B. BIN LADEN _--^r -°" 9-13-P1 P«ge . Nawaf stated Doctor Wael Kawach, although not a blood relative, is considered family. Kawach resides at | | I lalso. REQ. 30-2 000000004 9/11 Personal Privacy ;*9/ll Law Enforcement Privacy / / \. 9/26/01 T'AMARA K., BINLADIN, white female, d-ate of birth was interviewed residence telephone number \ Als/6 in attendance during this i _ __^^^__ Agent (SA) I / X \, tOBA^CCO ^apd FIREARMS (ATF) . After being advised of /the'--, identity of th£ interviewing Age.nts and the nature of the interview, BINLADIN furnished -the foi'i.ow.ing information : / \ \r to meeting-, and interviewing BINLADIN, SA 1 l.telephonically contacted BJNLjADIN \from '''a\telephcme located in the lobby security office of I : : ' i \ t?hen BINLADIN answered the telephone, SA I M I i identified himself as i Special Agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation {.FI) . SA I I requesteci a couple moments of BINLADXN' s time and \Lnquired if she would be 3.nterested in coming downstairs tp meet \with him (SA \BINLADIN stated, "pk4|y. Give me\ couple\f minutes." SA inquired, "You' ill cbrne d6wn?" \BINLADiN\responded, "Yes". Alter approximately ^ix to jten minutes, SA I I was advised by the security guaM §n duty1; that First Naipe Unknown (FNU) BINLADIN, the. father of_TAMA^AJ|BINLADIN, was\n the \telephone and wished to spe'ak with SAj r ' ^ Whil:e telephonically speaking with KHALILI BINLADIN. SAT II identified himself as a Special Agent with the FBI. \T I seated further that \he wishe^ to speak with TAMARA BINLADIN,.. KHALILI BINLADIN indicated 'that his ''daughter is willing to talk\with SA \ I I but sie is vety frightened. KHALILI BINLADIN inquired if he could be present during this interview, via a conference call.\A I j | indicatedithat this would nqt be a ~ problem. At this point, ^n unidentified white'; female exited the elevator and walked towards SAI I This individual identified herself as TAMARA $INLADEN. At this point, SA I I provided the telephone to TAMARA, BINLADIN and indicated that her father, wished to speak to her. After, a s^iort conversation (15 - 20 seconds), TAMARA BINLADIN terminated the telephone call. At this point, SA 1 |and 9/14/01 265A-NY-280350-302 SA I 9/21/01 REQ. 30-2 000000005 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 2 6 5.A--NY-2^.0,3 5 Q-3.Q 2 \ , TAMARA":::K;:,-,,BINLADIN 9/14/01 SA'|. \s .^s Special Agents with the FBI and ATF\. SATx "~l inquired if she was willing to be interviewed at this time.':::::.. BINLADIN indicated that she contacted her father as\e is afraid fof'::':h.e'r... safety. B.INLADIN indicated that she feels ''--comfortable now\that SAl I and SA 1 I have identified themselves 'to heir, BINLADIN was asked if she would prefer to conduct this interview in the lobby or in her'"-apartment. BINLADIN stated that her\apartment is messy as she isXirixithe process of moving to a different', apartment Within the same building. BINLADIN suggested that the interview take, place "in the lobby .are.a.. At this point, all parties proceeded othe lobby. ''., ''-._ '"'--... SA| | and SA'l I again identified, th-emselves to BINLADIN by showing Vtheir credentials", to BINLADIN. SAC" | asked BINLADIN if she recails her telephonic interview with SA~ ' I ' o September 13/.2001. 'n BINLADIN acknowledged that she recalls this, interview. SAl I stated that during this interview, she indicated that she would be willing to answer only certain questions. SA '1 I inquired if BINLADIN was willing at this time to be interviewed regarding her. family and the incident that occurred at the WORLD TRADE CENTER, New York, New York, on September. 11, 2001, or did she want her attorney present. BINLADIN stated that she would answer questions and did not want her attorney present. SA I I inquired, "Are you willing to answer questions without your attorney?" BINLADIN stated, "Yeah. It's fine. I'll talk with you." BINLADIN currently resides in apartment number:..] |. BINLADIN is currently in the process of moving intg.apartment number BINLADIN is changing apartments as her ...current apartment ) is possibly a handicap accessible ..apartment. BINLADIN's brother, SULTAN BINLADIN, 19 years of -age, lives with her. BINLADIN is going to keep her current telephone number-I I when she moves to apartment number. I I. SULTAN •BINLADIN is currently in Florida with their parent's . SU.LTAN BINLADIN is scheduled to start his freshman vea-r:::kt:1 I Boston, Massachusetts, next week. ,.,:::Di:ie::::tg.,-the recent events in New York and Washington DC, it is u-rve6;r:tain"as to whether SULTAN BINLADIN will return to Boston 9/11 Personal Privacy REQ. 30-2 000000006 9/11 Personal Privacy 26SA-NY-280350-302 ,. .TAMARA K. BINLADIN at this time. .... """•••.... 9/14/01 \A BINLADIN is currently attending I I Boston, Masssachiisetts. BINLADIN has not attended class since Tuesday, September, 11, 2001. BINLADIN will not attend class for the foreseeable, future. . BINLADIN indicated that she is still afraid for her safety. \BINLADIN, has stayed in her apartment for the most part since Tuesday (September 11, 2001). She is uncertain at this time as to whether she .will remain in Boston. Her parents have been very insistent that she and the rest of her family leave the United States until things calm., down. Bi'NLADIN indicated that she would like to stay in Boston, however, at this point in time, it appears that she along with her family, may return to Saudi Arabia. BINLADIN moved into hercurrent apartment in September, 1999. BINLADIN has bee.n attending 1 1 since September, 1999. BINLADIN entered'! ~l as a sophomore. BINLADIN is. majoring in International Relations. BINLADIN is currently in her senior year. She has three semesters to complete in order to receive her degree. BINLADIN anticipates graduating in December, 2002. BINLADIN indicated that she plans on returning to Boston in order to complete her education if she and her family leave the United States within the next few days. BINLADIN does not want her education to go by the wayside. She is currently attempting to make arrangements with Administration personnel to continue her education via electronic mail (e-mail) if she does return to Saudi Arabia. BINLADIN plans on eventually returning to Saudi Arabia to pursue a career in Graphic Design. 1 BINLADIN identified her mother as ISABEL BINLADIN and her \ as KHALILI BINLADIN. Both reside in Florida;/ Imother is originally from Brazil and her father from Saudi Arabia. TAMARA and SULTAN BINLADIN were born'in Los Angeles, California. TAMARA BINLADIN lived in Los Angeles through the third grade. She returned to Saudi Arabia where she completed grades 4 through 11. She would return to Los Angeles during the summer months. Her parents eventually moved to Florida in order to escape the increasing ' REQ. 30-2 000000007 9/11 Personal Privacy 265A-NY-280350-302 TAMARA K. BINLADIN violence in Los Angeles. I 9/14/01 BINLADIN attended the 12th grade at| "~"~\N indicate using the letter "i" or "e" in the spelling of the BINLADIN name, BINLADIN or BINLADEN, Saudi nationals spell it both ways. There is no right or wrong spelling. The BINLADIN name is one word and not hyphenated. BINLADIN's father has 52 living brothers and sisters. BINLADIN indicated that she has not met all of her aunts and uncles. Her father owns retail toy stores in Saudi Arabia. In addition, the BINLADIN family owns and operates the BINLADIN GROUP. This company was started by her grandfather. The BINLADIN GROUP is involved in many national and international ventures, such as, building roads and palaces. BINLADIN indicated that her grandfather passed away approximately 30 years ago. Her grandfather had several wives and many sons and daughters. OSAMA bin-Ladin is her half uncle (her father's half brother). TAMARA BINLADIN has never met or talked with OSAMA bin-Ladin. TAMARA BINLADIN stated that no one in the family talks about OSAMA bin-Ladin. The family cut all ties with OSAMA binLadin many years ago. TAMARA BINLADIN believes no one in the family has current contact with OSAMA bin-Ladin. The Saudi Arabian government had revoked OSAMA bin-Ladin's passport many years ago, possibly in the early 1980's, around the Soviet, Afghan war. At the time that OSAMA bin-Ladin was disowned by the family, he (OSAMA binLadin) was given a percentage of the family business. TAMARA BINLADIN was unable to approximate the portion of the family business provided to OSAMA bin-Ladin. REQ. 30-2 000000008 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy '•-..... /f PD-302 (Ritv, 10-6-95) 9/11 Personal Privacy -1 - M FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION t)a^ of transcription, 09/24/2001 . \n September 12, 2001, Special Agent (SA) 1 \ 1 \telephonically coii-tacte'd KHALIL BIN LADEN at i \- BIN LADEN tyas\advised that SA 1 T.was contacting hirti in response 'to information received by the FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION (FBI) that\ number of At. abs\d a large amount of activity had been observed at his residence, I . ''••i '\i °n the previous Sunday evening. KHALIL BIN LADEN, jbrother of known terrorist USAMA B'^N LADEN, advised that the oh-ly individuals present-, at his residenci^ were he and\his personal family members who had arrived at the home vapproximatelyXone month ago. The home is an approximately twenty ac£e compound located in I ''•-. i )• BIN LADEN\has ''6wned this residence since the latj-e, 1970s. BfN LADEN denied that any other Ariab individuals had been present, at his location and further stated that due to the recent terrorist attacks he feared for the well being of his. family. He then \\f SA I "I if he knew'Xof any threats againstxhis personal ^family and if 'SA~\ believed they were currently in danger. SA I I advised that sentiments within the United States were,, not running very high .with grief and anger over -the terrorist attacks and, it was possible that individuals would associate his last name with that of terrorist U,SAMA BIN LADEN. KHALIL BIN\LADENJ then inquired if SA i I could recommend any steps which would he.lp to ensure the safety of his family. SA I 1 recommended that BIN LADEN| obtain an unlisted phone number, sign up for \caller-id, and instali\a!n answering machine on his telephone. He was further advised if he sti|il felt that there was a i threat, he should contact the .ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT and ; possibly contract for pff-duty police office|rs\to provide additional. isecurity. \ \n September 15, 2001, KAHLIL BIN LADEN left a voicemail on the work telephone of SA 1 I requesting that, SAj Hcontact him as early as possible. On September 16, !2001, SA\ contacted ^CAHLEED BIN LADEN whereupon KHALIL BIN LADENJ advised that he feared for the safety of his family and wished to get them out of the country. He then inquired as to whether it would be safe; for them to travel commercially or whether it would be safer to! charter a flight to Washington D.C. where they could connect with a flight to Saudi Arabia being arranged through the Saudi Arabian embassy for Saudi Nationals. Investigatior) on 09/16/2001 at|_ Date dictated 09/16/2001 File # 2 6 ^ A - N Y - 2 8 0 3 5 0 - T P by TP3522; TP3756; TP5381 SAl I This doowjwU conwuujj^ither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agf^ Q Q Q Q 0 9 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy : i;p-6-95) i \N Y- 2 8 0 3-5.0'^T.P Continuation ofo&302 (if \V''K.HALIL Blfr--..LADEN , On 0 9 / 1 6 / 2 0 0 1 . Page 2_ SA! 'v-. KaMJi/i-sed KAHLIL BIN-..LADEN.. that he was unsure if commercial flight.s w . r e . \g but he would check on the situation and call him back. v\. " :qu6;n.t''--to contacting appropriate officials to determ \ if .commercial ''charters' \e flying, SA I [obtained information on several re;putab'le'':::,co'njpahies and called back KAHI/IL BIN LADEN to request a face to f;ace meet-ing' ,to -.provide him with information. KHALIL BIN LADEN agreed-, to me.et:-\SA-"CZ_~I] at his residence. ""••-,, Updt\arriv-ing, at, the\residence of KHALIL BIN LADEN, KHALIL introduced SA 1 1 tp n'dL.s ''••children and wife. Thereafter, SA | | ha a conversation with KHALi'l, Bt.N LADEN concerning the current climate in the country and questioned ..him. as to knowledge of his brothers whereabouts. BIN .LADEN does:, nbt have contact with his brother and does not know where he ''can be ' BIN LADEN '''was also. qiie-Sti'o.ned 'as to any knowledge of a travel agent by the name of | \, who, is alleged to have booked flights for several individuals involved £n terrorist acts against the United States. BIN LADEN was advised thafe.| \ claimed to be involved in the booking of flights for high ''leve'l Saudi Officials and members of the royal family. BIN LADEN stated that he was 'not familiar with "but stated that the companyXhe w.prked for, 1 I J could be checked out through the, Saudi Arabian Counsel in Houston, Texas. He also advised thafc, if'1 \ did business with SAUDI AIRLINES he would be known by the SAUDI AIRLINE representative in New York or possibly the SAUDI AIRLINE -representative from Orlando, Florida which has flights during the summer months-. On 9/17/01 KHALIL BIN LADEN recohtacted SA1 land asked for assistance in safely transporting his family to ORLANDO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, SIGNATURE FBO, where a, charter flight had been contracted for through the SAUDI EMBASSY. SA'1 I provided BIN LADEN with the name of a limo service and offered to provide an FBI escort to facilitate his families travel to the airport. On 9/19/01 KHALIL was provided with an FBI escort to the airport as requested. He was accompanied by his wife and son. At the request of the charter flight crew BIN LADENS luggage was searched prior to their boarding the plane. The planes departure was delayed approximately two hours by the flight crew who refused to fly upon learning the identities of the passengers. The matter wasa resolved after the charter company agreed to pay each flight crew member an additional five thousand dollars. The crew had been holding out for REQ. 30-2 000000010 FD-302a(Rev. 10-6-95) 265A-NY-280350-TP Continuation of FD-302 of KHALIL BIN LADEN .pn 09/16/2001 .Page -3_ $10,000. Prior to departure Bin Laden expressed his appreciation for the FBI's assistance and stated he hoped to return in several months under calmer conditions. Incorporated via attachment is the flight manifest for the charter flight utilized by the BIN LADEN family. REQ. 30-2 000000011 9/11 Personal Privacy VV\1 . A/ '''-\N S. BIN LADEN, white, male, date of birth ''•V ''.' '-\\ \s \d at his residence/1 \r 6-f!;4,h,g advised of th .interviewing Special Agent and State Trooper, BIN LADEN provided ti'he folloy'ign/g: BIN;-, LADEN provided a Massachusetts Driver's License bearing the Vfror'-ementioned address. The license'indicated that license number 1 \ is assigned to BIN LADEN. BIN LADEN''--has been in the United States for approximately five years. BIN LADEN graduated this year from TUFTS/.UNIVERSITY. \BIN\LADEN majored in Philosophy. BIN LADEN's VISA V'Ul expire in\, 2001. BIN LADEN indicated that he would like to stay in the. United States; however, believes it difficult to obtain c'itlze'nship status. \N LADEN is reiate.d to OSAMA BIN LADEN (OSAMA) . OSAMA is BIN LADEN's uncle. OS^AMA..is, the half-brother of BIN LADEN's i father. ,BJN LADEN never met\OSAMA.- Approximately eight years \o the Sau.di Arabian Gover,nme.nt\asked OSAMA to come back to U Saudi Arabia- OSAMA declined. , The BIN LADEN family has disowned \. BIN \LADEN does not know -anyone in who is in contact with \\OSAMA. \N .LADEN has cousins''--in the | | in [ \. BIN LADEN does notXbelieve that any of his cousins are ip contact with OSAMA., BIN LADEN provided the \g information: \D BIN LADEN, cellular telephone number (617) I \N LADEN thinks that MOHAMMED BIN LADEN, lives in a penthouse .apafetment. FAISAL BIN LApEN and his mo'the.r, SANAA BIN LADEN are. at I ~l apkrtment number I i SANAA BIN LADEN has, returned from Saudi Arabia. SANAA BIN LADEN's husband ZOHER LAST NAME UNKNOWN lives in i 1 O'MAR ALMADUDI resides in i I 9/18/01 265D-NY-280350 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 9/19/01 REQ. 30-2 000000012 apartment number BIN LADEN grew up in Austria. BIN LADEN's father SALEM BIN LADEN died in 1988. BIN LADEN's mother is SHEIKHA ALATAS. ALATAS has remarried. It is tradition that a wife keep her father's name and not take her husband's name. BIN LADEN Is not aware of any terrorist plots against the United States. BIN LADEN was shown a photograph of ten men and sketches of two men suspected of the September 11, 2001, hijacking and crash. BIN LADEN stated that he did not know any of the men shown. 9/18/01 ?6tSD-NY-28Q35Q S/ll Law Enforcement Privacy X' 9/19/01 REQ. 30-2 9/11 Personal Privacy 000000013 9/11 Personal Privacy :- FD-302(Rev. 10-6-95) - IFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/23/2001 \ \d as a Middle Eastern mal regarding inconsistencies in his name as written on a manifest list provided to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and his name as ^written in his passport | I \ was one member of a large entourage that consisted of Saudi Arabian royalty and their employees staying'.at the Four Seasons Hotel. After being made aware of the identities of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview, he provided the following: \ I could speak some English, but was assisted by a member of the entourage, Mohammed A. M. A. Alshihri, who acted as an interpreter.] \e said he had no relatives in the United States and no associates. He said that he has never worked in the United States. His only previous travel to the United States was with the prince two previous times. The two previous trips lasted about a month each and were td Las Vegas, Nevada, and Los Angeles, California. He said he has never been to anywhere else in the United States. He could provide no information about the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States other than what he had seen and heard on the television. J departed the United States on September 19, 2001 aboard a Republic of Gabon-flagged DC-8-73, tail number TR-LTZ, as part of a Saudi Arabian royalty/entourage group of 51 persons]. investigation on 09/18/2001 at Las Vegas, Nevada Date dictated 09/23/2001 File * 265D-NY-28Q35Q-LV by 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy This doc:umenl contours nejlher recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agpccv>. n A n n 1 A 9/11 Personal Privacy v. 10-6-95). 265D-NY'-280350-LV Continuation of FD-302 of I I . On 0 9 / 1 8 / 2 0 0 1 , Page -2- A copy of'1 I passport, a copy of his interpreter Mohammed A.M.A. Alshihri's passport, interview not-psi'"! Iselfwritten home address, and a copy of the manifest list of 69 persons is placed in an accompanying FD-340 (1A) envelope for inclusion in the case file. REQ. 30-2 OOQ000015 9/11 Personal Privacy IVD-JQ2 (Rev. 10-6-95) -1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/25/2001 ^ a Middle Eastern male, born |_ \n of Egypt, Social Security Account Number \n of Egyptian passport number 1 I by Saudi Arabian Prince Abdul Majeed Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud, and part of a group of 69 Saudi Arabian royalty and Entourage staying at the Four Seasons Hotel, Las Vegas, Nevada, was interviewed at the Four Seasons Hotel regarding inconsistencies between h\Ls passport number as written on a manifest provided to the Federal Bureau of Investigation and his passport number as written in his passport. After being made aware of the identities of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview, he provided the following: He has a son who is an American and his son is married to an :American woman. His son's name isj I United States J He uses his son's address as his residence address. \e prince (s) and their entourage (s) came from Los Angeles to the Las ^egas area on September 09, 2001. They feared continuing earthquakes in the Los Angeles-area. .He has been to the United States before this current trip with the prince. Two previous trips with the prince, and one previous trip without the prince. departed Las Vegas on September 19, 2001, as part of a group of 51 persons of the Saudi Arabian royal party, aboard a Government of Gabon-flagged DC-8-73, tail number TR-LTZ, bound for Geneva, Switzerland.] investigation on 09/18/2001 at Las Vegas, Nevada Date dictated 09/23/2001 File # 2 6 5 D - N Y - 2 8 Q 3 5 0 - L V 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agSPQi'./* • /« .... /REQ. 30-2 OTJOOOOOlb 9/11 Personal Privacy FD-302* (Key. 10-6-95) 265D-NY-28-Q350-LV Continuation of FD-302 of , On 0 9 / 1 8 / 2 0 0 1 .Page . a copy of lodged at September inclusion A copy of Jpassport, original interview notes, and the four-page manifest of the entire Saudi Arabian party that the Four Seasons Hotel, and departed Las Vegas, Nevada on 19, and 20, 2001, have all been placed in an FD-340 (1A) for in the case file. REQ. 30-2 000000017 9/11 Personal Privacy pFO-302(Rcv. 10-6-95) FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/23/2001 possession of \Egyptian passport number _^_^__ was interviewed at the Four Seasons Hotel,Las Vegas, Nevada regarding inconsistencies between his name as written on a manifest list provided to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and his name as written in his passport | I ]. He was one memoer ol a group of 69 persons,known to be Saudi Arabian royalty and their entourage, all lodged under the name \ at the Four Seasons Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada. After being made aware of the identities of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview, he provided the following: He has contacts and friends in Florida, San Francisco, and Los Angeles. He has an American girlfriend named I He loves America and would like to live here and have a house. He is sorry about what happened on September 11, 2001. He understands that the prince will fly to Geneva, Switzerland from Las Vegas, then on to Saudi Arabia. He came to Los Angeles on September 05, 2001, and Las Vegas on September 09, 2001. investigation on 09/18/2001 at Las Vegas, Nevada Date dictated 09/23/2001 File # 265D-NY-28035Q-LV 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy by This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your aMWA ri ri ri rv i p 9/11 Personal Privacy FD-302a(Rev. 10-6-95) 265b-NY-280350-LV Continuation of FD-302 of | [ , On 0 9 / 1 8 / 2 0 0 1 , Page . He came to the United-States alone in October 2000. [On September 19, 2001, he departed Las Vegas, Nevada with a party of 51 persons, all considered to be part of a Saudi Arabian royal party, aboard a chartered Government of Gabon-flagged DC-8-73, tail number TR-LTZ. The destination of the aircraft was Stamstead Airport (London), England.] A copy of his passport, copy of the manifest of the entire Saudi Arabian party, and original notes of the interview have been placed in an FD-340 (1A) envelope for inclusion in the case file. REQ. 30-2 000000019 9/11 Personal Privacy FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) 1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/23/2001 as a. white\male, born citrzen of I issued Jfor Saudi Arabian Prince Abdul Majeed Bin Abdul Aziz Al Saud (Prince\Abdul Maj,eed) , was interviewed at the Four Seasons Hotel, Las Vegas, N'evada regarding inconsistencies between his name as written on a manifest list provided to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and his .name a,s typed in\his passport [ 1 I "T on pass.port] . After being made aware of the identities of th.e interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview, he provided the,following: \ T J He knows Prince Abdul Majeed personally and plans to travel with him and the royal party from Las Vegas, Nevada to Geneva, Switzerland, to Saudi, Arabia. He may instead go to Paris, France fr.om Geneva., Switzerland. \ for Prince Abdul Majeed and hi.s party if they go to Paris. He would nave liked to stay in Lis Vegas, Nevada a little bit longer. H,e arrived ''in the United States on September 01, 2000 with Prince Abdul Majeed. He has been to the United States before, in 1997 as a tourist, and stayed in the Los Angeles area for approximately three months',during that, visit. He hopes to work with Prince Abdul Majeed again in the future. He is willing to be of\help to the Federal Bureau of Investigation even if he is in 1 I He could get to the United States Embassy in | [to provide assistance. investigation on 09/18/2001 at Las Vegas, Nevada Date dictated 09/23/2001 File # ^ S S n - N Y - ' P R m R n . - T . V by 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacv icument This document contains neii njither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your a| REQ. 30-2 TOO 000020 9/11 Personal Privacy \\;:::;x::.. FD-302a (Rcv.lO^-95) 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 2-6 5 DvNY-2-S 0 3'50-LV Continuation of FD-302 of J X .. ""•-,. I On 0 9 / 1 8 / 2 0 0 1 .Page \n September 20, 200l,\ departed Las Vegas, Nevada with a party °f 18 persons considered to be part of a Saudi Arabian royal party, aboard a chartered Sowing 727-21, tail number N.727PX. Destination pf the aircraft-was Stamstead, London, airport. Immediately before boarding the aircraft,'! [approached Special Agent I I and stated that, he would contact him in 'the future, and that he wanted to help the Federal Bureau of Investigation'-.--.] Copy of | | passport, copy of maril.fest of entire Saudi Arabian royal party, copy of manifest for aircraft'! I departed aboard, and original notes of interview placed in a FD-340 (1A) envelope for provision to the case file. REQ. 30-2 000000021 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy I , \. 08-28-2000) 9/11 Personal Privacy i \ . FEDERAL BUR Precedence: To: IMME DIATE Attn: SIOC Date: 09/18/2001 "Counterterrorism New York Los. Angeles \quad NSD-4 Contact: SA f From: Approved By: Drafted By: Case ID\#: 265D-NY-280350 (Pending) 265D-NY-280350-LA (Pending) Title: PENTTBOMB MC .- 182 AOT\: To set forth results of interviews. Details: I On 09/17/2001, Naiiah Einladen was ^interviewed at I I \ Najiah was very upset over the recent attacks, as violence is not the way of Islam. Najiah stated that she i.oves the United States, especially the Los Angeles region. Najiah stated that she intended to return to Saudi Arabia by afraid to leave her her safety. Naj the weekend. Najiabt stated that she was\d was anxious abo'-ut building, was even more apprehensive of the media finding, her. J and stated that On 09/18/2001, Najiah contacted SA [ she was leaving on 09/19/2001. Najiah is departing on a charter flight with Garratt Aviation on flight N521DB at 9:00 a.m. on 09/19/2001. Najiah stated that the plane would pick her up and take her to Orlando. In Orlando, Najiah 1 s brother, Khalil, will get on the plane, which will then depart to Boston. In Boston, they will pick up her nephews Nawaf and Suleiman, along with some other family members. The plane will then go to Geneva, Switzerland. ]that she would contact SA Najiah informed SA|_ J prior to returning to California or immediately thereafter Najiah stated that she is a private pilot. Najiah took flying lessons at Santa Monica Airport, Santa Monica, California. Najiah has had training on both single and twin engine planes. REQ. 30-2 000000022 To: Re: Counterterrorism From: Los Angeles 265D-NY-280350, 09/18/2001 Earlier this summer, Najiah, assisted by a co-pilot, flew her daughters to Las Vegas, Nevada. Najiah did not wear a veil or an abaya in the presence of a male agent. Najiah appears to be very well educated and enjoys yoga. Najiah was constantly watching CNN news reports in English. REQ. .30-2 000000023 To": Re: Counterterrorism From: Los Angeles 265D-NY-280350, 09/18/2001 LEAD(s) : Sat Lead 1: ALL RECEIVING OFFICES Read and clear. REQ. 30-2 000000024 9/11 Personal Privacy 09/21/01 FAISAL K. BIN LADEN, white male, Date of Birth,| "\s interviewed at his residence, | _ ~ ~ ^ ^ -•... I. BIN L^DEN was advised of the official identities of the interviewing Sp.ecial Agent (SA) and Massachusetts State Police Troopers (Tpr.). Also present throughout the interview was NAWAF BIN LADEN (NAWAF). BIN\N provided the following: X, of time. BIN LADEN has been in the United States for a short period BIN LADEN is a freshman at the I \N LJ^DE BIN LADEN will be permitting him to be in the United States. returning to Saudi Arabia soon. , BIN LADEN's address outside the United States (U.S.) is J K H L E D M. BIN LADEN is BIN LADEN's father. KHLED M. BIN LADEN \is in the agriculture and farming business. KHLED M. BIN LADEN owns\ sugar candy company. MERVED M. MAHOUD is BIN LADEN's mother. BIN LADEN's parents live in the aforementioned address in Egypt. BIN .LADEN attended school in Egypt. OSAMA BIN LADEN (OSAMA) is KHLED M. BIN LADEN's (father's) half-brother.'', FAISAL K. BIN LADEN has never talked to OSAMA. BIN LADEN stated that his father has not had any recent contact with OSAMA. BIN LADEN does not know how long it has been since his father has spoken to OSAMA. BIN LADEN stated that he did not have any prior knowledge of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. BIN LADEN stated that he only knows what he has seen on the news. BIN LADEN is not aware of any gioups or individuals planning to attack the United 'States. \1 265D-NY-280350 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/20/01 REQ. 30-2 000000025 9/11 Personal Privacy 09/23/01 ALMTASIM M. AL'SAWWAF, white male, Date of BirthT \ Also present throughout the interview was NAWAF BIN LADEN BIN LADEN translated portions of the interview. After being advised of the official identities ofvthe interviewing Special Agent-, (SA) and Massachusetts St:ate Police Troopers (Tprs.), ALSAWWAF provided the following'':,. ALSAWWAF is a first year'student at |_ ALSAWWAF is majoring in English. \s father is MEZN ALSWW^F. FATMA ALATTAS. ALSAWWAF's parents live on'd J ALSWWAF's mother is L J OSAMA BIN LADEN (OSAMA) is ALSAWWAF's uncle. OSAMA is ALATTAS's brother. ALSAWWAF met OSAMA approximately'ten years ago. The meeting took place prior to OSAMA being expelled from Saudi Arabia\ ALSAWWAF described the meeting as brief, OSAMA said Hi. Neither ALSAWWAF nor his parents are currently in contact with pSAMA. ALSAWWAF stated that he had no prior knowledge of the September 11, 2001 attacks on the United States. ALSAWWAF does not know of any. groups or individuals planning to attack the United States. \1 2fi.SA-NY-2flm.Sn 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/23/01 REQ. 30-2 000000026 9/11 Personal Privacy 09/23/01 SALEM ALYAFEAI, white male, Date of Birthrf _J. Also present during portions of the interview was NAWAF BIN LADEN. NAWAF BIN LADEN occasionally translated portions of the interview. After being advised of the official identities of the interviewing Special Agent (SA) and -MA State Police Troopers (Tprsi.), ALYAFEAI provided the following: ALYAFEAI has been in the United States (U.S.) for two weeks. \ALYAFEAI is utilizing a student visa in order to stay in i the United States. ALYAFEAI is studying English. ALYAFEAI had I been in the United States on one previous occasion approximately six or seven years ago. ALYAFEAI attended a summer camp called \n the state of Maine. ALYAFEAI listed his parents as ALI ALYAFEAI (father) and ANISA liast Name Unknown (LNU) (mother) . ALYAFEAI's father : died approximately two to three years ago. ALYAFEAI lived with I his grandmother, | \s fathe (OSAMA). There is no blood relation between ALYAFEAI's father and OSAMA. ALVAFEAI never met OSAMA. ALYAFEAI has never been contacted by anyone associated with OSAMA. ALYAFEAI stated that he had no prior knowledge of the September 11, 20(31 attacks on the United States. ALYAFEAI is not aware of any groups planning to attack the United States. 09/19/01 ?fi5A-NY-2803SD 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/22/01 REQ. 30-2 000000027 9/11 Personal Privacy 09/24/01 MOHAMMED AWAD ALJOHI, born| J cellular telephone \ was interviewed? Assisting in the interview was Trooper I State Police. After being advised of the identities of the _.,-• interviewing agents, and the purpose of the interview, AL.JGHI provided the following information: ALJOHI is studying at | | He has . no first-hand information relative to the events of September 11, /9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/19/2001 265A-NY-280350 / 09/24/2001 L REQ. 30-2 000000028 9/11 Personal Privacy 09/24/01 HASAN AWAD ALJOHI, born| | Social Security \Account Number / '"' j\ I was interviewed. Assisting in the interview wasKJrooper / State Police. After being advised of the identities of the interviewing agents, and the purpose, of the interview, ALJOHI/ provided the following information: . events of \e \he would 1 . return, to ALJOHI has no first-hand information relative to/the September 11, 2001. He was visibly ..concerned about the be taking away from his studies at/ I I while on this trip to Saudi Arabia. ALJOHI .hopes to the United States and resume his classes . /9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/19/2001 265A-NY-280350 SA \_ / 09/24/2001 REQ. 30-2 000000029 9/11 Personal Privacy 9/20/01 \\SANA'A M. B.IN LADEN, white, female, date of birth: Lof citizenship:} x., \ Als6' present throughout the interview was NAWAF BIN LADEN. After being,, advised of the official identities of the interviewing Special Agent and Massachusetts State Police Trooper^ (Tpr.), BIN LADE£! provided the following: BIN- LADEN''is'utilizing a student -VISA to stay in the \United States. BIN LADEN, is enrolled at the I I I \ BIN LADEN started this program Monday (September 17, 20'Q1)\but dropped out due to safety concerns . BIN LADEN wears, axs car f in conformance with the Islamic religion, ;Massachusetts. BIN LADEN is the oldest'''..family member living in BIN LADEN advised that her passport may reflect ^an incorrect birth date. BIN LADEN believes her birth date to be I '\ BIN LADEN explained that birth dates in the Middle Eas'-t are often calculated using 'dates important to the Islamic religion. Sometimes these dates can be confused when translated 'to a western culture's calender... BIN LADEN knows that she was born, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia but all .of her birth records indicate Jed&ah as her birthplace. BIN \LADEN used to live in this hull ding a couple of years ago. BI^ LADEN owned Penthouse number I I 'BIN LADEN sold that unit but fcept a mailing address at unit number f |. BIN LA-DEN believes that money in transit to her in the United States was, frozen by banks due to the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States. BIN LADEN's mother was sending her the money. BIN LADEN's father MOHAMMED BIN LADEN died many years ago at the age of fifty or sixty. OSAMA BIN \LADEN (OSAMA) is BIN LADEN's half-brother. BIN LADEN's last contact with OSAMA was approximately fifteen to 9/19/01 265D-NY-280350 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 9/20/02 REQ. 30-2 000000030 265D-NY-280350 SANA'A M. BIN LADEN 9/19/01 sixteen years ago. BIN LADEN saw OSAMA at a funeral. BIN LADEN stated that it was not a very long discussion. BIN LADEN has not heard of anyone in her family being in contact with OSAMA. The family did not know a lot about OSAMA. BIN LADEN described OSAMA as very quiet, shy, private, and almost a stranger to family members. OSAMA was so strict that he would not have his picture taken with the family at events or celebrations. BIN LADEN stated that she did not have any prior knowledge of the attack which occurred on September 11, 2001. BIN LADEN saw the live news reports after the first airplane struck the World Trade Center. BIN LADEN did not realize it was a plane crash and thought that it was a building fire. BIN LADEN was frightened for the people in the building. BIN LADEN then saw the second airplane strike the World Trade Center and was both terrified and sad. BIN LADEN is not aware of any individuals or groups planning to attack the United States. REQ. 30-2 000000031 9/11 Personal Privacy 09/21/01 OMAR S. ALMADOUDI-,, white male, Date of Birth \e number J was contacted at the aforementioned address, Also at '•apartment number present during portions of the interview was NAWAF BIN LADEN. After being advised of the official identities of the interviewing Special Agent (SA) and.State Troopers (Tpr.), ALMADOUDI provided the following: ALMADOUDI is the brother of FAISAL ALMADOU.DI. ALMADO(k)I is a citizen of Saudi Arabia. ALMADODDI ha's. been in the United States for approximately five years on a student visa. ALMADOtioi is in his fourth year of undergraduate work at I I University. ALMADOUDI is majoring in marketing and expects to graduate 'in May, 2002. ALMADOUDI will be returning to Saudi Arabia tonight. \I grew up in Saudi A r a b i a , ALMADOUDI's parents ;are SALEH ALMADOUDI ( f a t h e r ) , and SU'AD BIN LADEN (mother) 'ALMADOUDI's p.arents live in t h e ; ' OSAMA BIN LADEN (OSAMA) is ALMADOUDI's uncle. OSAMA is the half-broth'er of ALMADOUDI's mother (SU'AD BIN LADEN) . ALMADOUDI may have met OSAMA when he was a child but has no clear recollection of.this. ALMADOUDI's parents are not in contact with OSAMA. ALMADOUpI stated that he had no prior knowledge of the September 11, 2001 attack on the United States. ALMADOUDI is not aware of any individuals or groups that wish to cause harm to the people of the United States. 09/19/01 265D-NY-28Q350 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/20/01 REQ. 30-2 000000032 9/11 Personal Privacy FD-302(Rev. 10-6-95) -1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/20/2001 FAISAL S . ALMADOUDI, white, male, D •..address: I O I home | /was contacted at - B : | _\ \o present during portions of the interview were NAWAF BIN LADEN and his wife REEM HAMZA ASAR. Portions of the interview were translated by BIN LApEN and HAMZA ASAR. After being advised of the official identities of\the interviewing Special Agent (SA) and State Troopers (TPR) , ALMADOUDI provided the following: at trier" ALMADOUDI was born in Saudi Arabia. =—-* '•^ —r " ALMADOUDI is a student \ .April 'yd,<dUUl througn October 25, 2001. ALMADOUDI is in the United \s ..utilizing a student VISA. ,\H ALMADOUDI is ALMADOUDI'S father. SU'AD BIN LADEN is \ALMADOUDI'S mother. ALMADOUDI'S parents' address is I \OSAMA BIN LADEN (OSAMA) is SU'AD BIN LADEN'S half-brother. OSAMA is ALMADOUDI'S uncle. ALMADOUDI'spoke with OSAMA on one occasion when he was approximately nine or ten years old. This conversation took place '^n Saudi Arabia. ALMADOUDI stated that no one from the family is currently in contact with OSAMA. ALMADOUDI stated that he was not aware of the September 11, 2001 attack oki the United States prior to its occurrence. ALMADOUDI is not aware of a^ny current plots against the United States. ALMADOUDI does not know ijf any groups or individuals who plan to attack the United States. \n on 09/19/01 at|_ File » 2 6 5 D - N Y - 2 8 0 3 5 Q 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy DatejJictated 09/20/01 by This doaujent cootoins wither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your WWXrtrt/Nrt oo 9/11 Personal Privacy \VD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) FEDERAL--BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Oate of transcription 09/20/2001 \r Awad Abdullah Binladen {Binladen) , Born ( " "" I I I was interviewed at the Piedmont Hawthorne Charter Airline Office, Washington Dulles International Airport (Dulles Airport), Dulles, Virginia. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, Birtladen provided the following information: Binladen, a Saudi Arabian citizen (Saudi Arabia n^ssnnrt f Due to\concerns for his safety in the U.S. after the 9/11/01 terrorist plane crashes in the U.S., Binladen is returning to Saudi Arabia for a few months. He obtained a flight on Piedmont Hawthorne Charter Airline (# 621DB), departing Dulles Airport at 10:00PM, 9/19/01. \In 1995, Binladen was traveling back and forth from Saudi Arabia to ''the U.S., where his mother\was being treated for cancer. In 1996, Binladen attended Georgetown University, Washington, D.C. He later studied at American University and Southeastern University, both in Washington, D.C. He graduated in 1999., with a MBA degree. I On 9/11/00, Binladen was hired by] | He currently has a H1B American visa, issued on 8/7/01, with an expiration date of 8/6/03 His U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service 1-94 departure card reflects INS * 1 |on it. Binladen advised that he has no association with the extremist group Taliban or Osama bin Laden. He has no friends or family residing in Pakistan or Afghanistan. He has never traveled to Pakistan or Afghanistan. Binladen did not know any of the Arab terrorists who crashed the American planes on 9/11/01. investigation on 9/19/01 302 at Dulles, Virginia WF3976C.302 Date dictated File # 2 6 5 A - N Y - 2 8 0 3 5 0 by 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy This Hnr-yny-ni conjjuttneither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your age ocvi _ _ _ ,» — . 9/11 Personal Privacy FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) -1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription 09/20/2001 KHOLOUD... 0. KURDI, DOtfr \c Pass Airport, Dulles, Virginia. MS. KURDI was,..advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, that being a request for identification of herself and four., other members of her traveling party leaving on Flight 521 to Boston .-...Thereafter, the following information was provided: ' ... \. KURSI advised that she is a sophomore at I I I | She advised that her father is an . ambassador stationed in Saudi Arabia. She stated she was returning to her home in Saudi Arabia for a period of time. Prior to leaving on her flight, her baggage was inspected by SA'S I I and FAA SAI I /9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy investigation on 9/19/01 «'' Dulles, Virginia WF#3976b,302 Date dictated 9/20/01 File # 265A-NY-280350-302./ by SA I This doojfwpl contains ngther recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your aSRWA « « « /\ c 9/11 Personal Privacy \2 (Rev/10-6-95) - 1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION ,. Date of transcription 09/19/2001 L Bader Ahmed Binladin (-birth name Bader Ahmed bin Laden) , born was interviewed at the Piedmont Hawthorne--Charter Airline Office, Washington Dulles International Airport'-lDulles Airport), Dulles, Virginia. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing Agent and the nature of the interview, Binladin provided the following information: ""•-... Binladin, a U.S. Citizen, advised he is a student at | ]. He is in his third year J and has a business major. Due to concerns for his safety in the U.S. after the 9/11/01 terrorist plane crashes, Binladin is returning to Saudi Arabia for about a month. He obtained a flight on Piedmont Hawthorne Charter Airline (# 621DB), departing Dulles Airport at 10:OOPM, 9/19/01. While in the U.S.. Binladin resides at I J W h e n Binladin arrives in Jeddah, Cellular telephone |_ Saudi Arabia, he will be visiting his father, Ahmed Mohammed bin Laden. Binladin advised that he spells his last name different from his father. Binladin advised that he has had no association with the extremist group Taliban or Osama bin Laden. Binladin has no friends or family residing in Pakistan or Afghanistan.- He has never traveled to Pakistan or Afghanistan. Binladin did not know any of the Arab terrorist who crashed the American planes on 9/11/01. investigation on 9/19/01 at Dulles, Virginia WF3976d.302 Date dictated File** 2 6 5 A - N Y - 2 8 Q 3 5 0 - 3 0 2 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy This ent cg/itains rneither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your nt cgjitams (JW600036 9/11 Personal Privacy FD-3Q2(Rev. 10-6-95) -1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription Akberali Mohemedali Moawalla, | 09/19/2001 was interviewed at Piedmont Hawthorne Aviation, 23411 Autopilot Drive, Dulles Airport, VA. After being advised of the identity of the interviewing agents and the purpose of the interview, Moawalla provided the following information: He was currently traveling on a charter flight with Shafig bin Laden who is the half brother of Osama bin Laden. Moawalla traveled from London to Boston on 9/10/01 where he stayed at the Four Seasons Hotel. During his stay in Boston, Moawalla met with representatives from Wellington Management. He was scheduled to return to London on British Airways on 9/16/01. However, after the terrorists attacks of 9/11/01, all flights were cancelled and he could not return as scheduled. Moawalla was contacted by the bin Laden family and advised that a charter was being hired to leave the U.S. Moawalla then came to D.C. and stayed at the Park Hyatt Hotel, 1201 24th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C., telephone 202/789-1234. He thought that the Saudi Arabian Embassy had suggested to the bin Laden family that they leave the U.S. for safety reasons because of their relationship to Osama bin Laden. Moawalla believed that the Saudi Arabian Embassy made the arrangements for the charter flight and had coordinated everything with the U.S. government. From its origination in Los Angeles, CA today, the plane was scheduled to make stops en route to pick up various bin Laden family members, including several children and students. According to Moawalla, the children were "being taunted at school" because of their association with the bin Laden family. Moawalla too felt as though he may be in danger since he' worked for the bin Laden family. To his knowledge, the charter flight was next scheduled to stop in Boston, MA to pick up additional passengers, then to Paris for refueling, and on to Geneva, Switzerland. Moawalla planned to deplane in Paris and catch a commercial flight to London. Some members of the bin Laden family were scheduled to deplane in Geneva with others traveling on to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Investigation on 9/19/01 at Dulles Airport, VA Date dictated File tt 2 6 5 D - N Y - 2 8 0 3 5 0 - 3 0 2_ by 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy daaroent 9/11 Personal Privacy K.D-302a (Rev. 10-6-<>5) .... 265D-NY-280350-WF ContinuationypD-302of '".. "\. On 9/19/01 ,Page Akberali Mohemedali Moawalia Moawalla said that Abdullah bin Laden, 'al-sp a half brother of Os'ama, was coordinating the charter flight with all the-, family members. He \.was a Harvard Law School graduate currently residing irr| ] Moawalla was in Boston with Abdullah until Sunday when Moawalla came to D.C. for the charter flight. Global Administration, Limited Global was started in 1990 for the purpose of reviewing investment proposals for the bin Laden family. There are five Global employees who serve as investment advisors. This aspect of the bin Laden family business is managed by Shafig bin Laden with whom Moawalla arrived at Piedmont Hawthorne Aviation this evening. Shafig was described as the President/Owner of Global. Moawalla has been employed by Global since 1990. He obtained his,Master of Business Administration (MBA) from University of Massachusetts, (UM) in 1976. He attended UM- on a student VISA and had a U.S. Social Security Account Number during that time (number unrecalled). Moawalla has been a British citizen since 1986. He also maintains citizenship with Tunisia as well. As an investment advisor at Global, Moawalla reviewed proposals for different investments, prepared investment summaries, and submitted them to .the bin Laden brothers to decide which avenues to pursue. Once the investment proposals were accepted by the family, they were then provided to the "professional investment managers". These investment companies thereafter conducted the financial transactions at their own discretion based upon the plan proposed by Moawalla and approved.by the family. Moawalla provided the following investment firms and his contacts within each: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. J.P. Morg'an -I Goldman SichsJ Citibank - I Merrill Lynch |_ Permal Asset Management! 6. Morgan Stanley - 1 Moawalla has never conducted any financial transactions for Osama bin Laden. He has no knowledge of any recent transactions to sell short certain stock holdings in reinsurance companies, investment companies occupying space in World Trade Center (WTC), and/or airlines, He did not know with whom Osama bin Laden conducted his financial transactions. To his knowledge, Osama bin Laden was considered the REQ. 30-2 000000038 FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 265D-NY-280350-WF -302 of Akberali Mohemedali Moawalla , On 9/19/01 , Page, "black sheep" of the family. The family "cursed" Osama bin Laden as he has brought much shame to the family. To his knowledge, the bin Laden family has never provided any financial assistance to Osama bin Laden since his exile from Saudi Arabia. Moawalla believed that the news reports of Osama bin Laden's financial worth being $300 million were greatly exaggerated. Moawalla believed that Osama bin Laden grew up in a different household than Shafig bin Laden and many of the 52 bin Laden children. He did not know nor could he really guess at the net worth of the bin Laden family. He did not know how the family fortunes are distributed among the 52 brothers and sisters of the bin Laden family. In the early 1990s, the bin Laden family worked with the Saudi government to build roads throughout the country. Osama bin Laden did not agree with this activity on the part of his family and took exception with both his family and the Saudi government. In 1993 or 1994, Saudi Arabia revoked the citizenship of Osama bin Laden. Moawalla felt certain that the bin Laden family has had no contact with Osama bin Laden.since that time. Moawalla explained that in their financial dealings with the various investment companies' identified above, the bin Laden family had to provide formal documentation to the investment managers showing that the bin Laden family did not support or fund Osama bin Laden. These investment companies then performed their own due diligence to corroborate the information provided by the family. Moawalla did not believe that Shafig bin Laden and/or his brothers had any current relationship with their brother, Osama bin Laden. Moawalla had no knowledge of the attacks on the World Trade Center in New York City, New York or the Pentagon in the Washington, D.C. area. He recognized the magnitude of the tragedy and pledged to provide any information to which he becomes privy. He did not believe, that other bin Laden family members had any knowledge of the attacks beyond that which was reported in the press. Moawalla said that if, for an instant, he believed that the bin Laden family knew of the planned terrorists attacks, he would not be working for them. Moawalla provided the following information about some of the other passengers listed on the flight manifest: Najia bin Laden - Osama's sister. returning to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Was in LA and is now REQ. 30-2 000000039 FD-302a(Rev. 10-6-95) 265D-NY-280350-WF .On 9/19/01 Continuation of FD-302 of Akberali Mohemedali Moawalla Kahlil bin Laden - Brother of Osama. Arabia. Maria Bayma - Doesn't know. Sultan bin Laden - nephew of Osama. Shafig bin Laden - Brother of Osama. Lives in Jeddah, Saudi Nawaf Bark bin Laden - nephew of Osama/son of Bark bin Laden Reem Hamza Asar - Doesn't know. Omar and Faisal Almadoudi - possibly nephew/nieces of Osama. Mohammed Salem bin Laden - nephew of Osama/son of Salem bin Laden Salman Salem bin Laden - son of Salem bin Laden. Tamara Khalil bin Laden - niece of Osama/daughter of Khalil bin Laden. Sana Mohammed bin Laden - Sister of Osama. Hasan Awed Aljohi - nephew or niece of Osama. A consent search of Moawalla's luggage and briefcase was conducted but no items were retained. Moawalla explained that the various certificates of commendation to the bin Laden family from U.S. Department of Defense agencies were part of a public relations matter on the part of the bin Laden family to show that they assisted the U.S. in the past and were recognized for thier contributions. During the Gulf war in the middle east, the bin Laden family assisted in building roads into Iraq for U.S. troops. Moawall's briefcase contained a Prospectus from Charles W. Freeman, Jr., Chairman, of Projects International. He explained that Freeman was the Ambassador to Saudi Arabia during the Gulf war. The following information was obtained from Moawalla: L REQ. 30-2 9/11 Personal Privacy J 000000040 FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 265D-NY-280350-WF Continuation of FD-302of Akberali Mohemedali Moawalla .On 9 / 1 9 / 0 1 . , Page 5_ 9/11 Personal Privacy Moawalla left the lounge area at Piedmont Hawthorne at approximately 11:00 p.m. with Shafig bin Laden and three young adults to board the 727 charter to Boston. The Air Group, Inc. flight schedule/manifest for this charter is maintained in the 1A section of the file. REQ. 30-2 000000041 9/11 Personal Privacy \1 On September 19, 2001, the below liisted Special Agents met with the following outgoing crew members; of RYAN INTERNATIONAL AIRLINES, Wichita, Kansas, telephone number 800942-1638, in order to solicit their cooperation in the investigation of the Twin Towers and Pentagoi^i bombings: DAN KENNEDY, Social Security Number PHILLIP ROLISON, Social Security Number MICHAEL NIGHTENGALE, Social Security Number AMMIE GATES, Social Security Number* JOHN O'QUINN, Social Security Number' TRACEY MORSE, Social Security Number' <\s crew was FLIGHT SUPPORT, Logan International Airport, carrying members of the BINLADEN family residing in the New England area. They were responsible for the Boston, Massachusetts, to Paris, France, portion of the trip, leaving the night of September 19, 2001. They stated they would contact the Federal Bureau of Investigation if they became aware of any information that would assist with the above mentioned investigation. SA..J | furnished several business cards to this crew. /9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy 09/19/01 265D-NY-280350 SA SA ' East Boston, Massachusetts / 09/20/01 REQ. 30-2 000000042 9/11 Personal Privacy k)-302(Rev. 10-6-95) - 1FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription SHAFIG M . A . BIN LADEN, DOB\ 09/20/2001 was interviewee at Fieomont Hawtnorne unarter Aircrart,uuiJ.es Airport. Dulles, Virginia. Also present during the interview was | LADEN was advised of the identity of the interviewing agent and the nature of the interview, that being a request of he arid his party for identification. Thereafter, the following information' was provided: \l A SHAFIG BIN LADEN is in the investment department for the SBLG. He arrived in the U.S. on September 9, 2001 0n British Airlines from London. He attended a convention at the Ritz ,/Carlton in Washington, D.C. arranged by the Carlyle Group, a/h investment banking firm. While in Washington, D.C., he stayed at th.e Hyatt Hotel on M and 24th Streets in Georgetown. His contact with the Carlyle Group is HARRY ALVERSON in Washington, D.C. He displayed a Carlyle Group brochure. He further displayed a document he described as the order for the charter generated by the Saudi Arabian Embassy. SHAFIG BIN LADEN further advised that during the 1990's, he and his attorneys met at length with officials of the FBI and provided them all information to satisfy them that the SBLG had no connection with the activities of OSAMA BIN LADEN. SHAFIG BIN LADEN offered to make his and his party's baggage available to be searched. The bags were hand searched by SA.-L 1 I | Also searched'on behalf of the pilot were two boxes containing radio equipment wh.ich met flight 521 on the tarmac and were thereafter loaded onto the plane. /9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy investigation on 9/19/01 at .Dulles. Virginia Control#3976a Date dictated 9/20/01 File* 265A-NY-280350-302 / by SA I i This document contai«_n*ther recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your aWIJ*tfan A Af|4 Q 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy ev.; 0,8-28-2000) -. FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Precedence-:.. To: From: PRIORITY Attn: Date: S.IOC 09/19/2001 '-Couhterterrorism Lb,s Angeles ••Squad,NS''D-4 don tact.: SA SSA[ Approved By: Drafted By: Case ID #: 265D-NY-280350-'LA Title: PENTTBOMB MC - 182 AOT To notify FBIHQ of imminent travel and 'results of interviews. Re telcall between SAT _~|and SSA1 '-{Pending; Synopsis: Administrative: 09/19/2001. J on Details:-, On 09/19/2001, FBI Los Angeles escorted Najiah Binladen to 'Garrett Aviation, a charter terminal at Los Angeles 'International Airport Najiah boarded a 737-200, tail number N521DB, a Ryan international Airlines aircraft, flight number 441. fhe aircraft crew consisted of pilot Captain BillXDillow, Flight Officer Lisa Snider, Flight Engineer Enor Svensson, flight attendant Karen Schoen, and flight attendant Sally Kacheroski. Ryan International Airlines provided an unarmed security guard aboard t flight, Jason\, Los Angeles Police Department Reserve officer date of birthF L Najiah was the only passenger aboard the aircraft. Najiah stated that they would first land in Orlando, Florida. In Orlando, her brother Khalil, Khalil's wife, and Khalil's son would als board the aircraft. The plane would then proceed to Washington, D.C., to pick up two more individuals before continuing on to Boston, Massachusetts. In Boston, many more family members would be boarding the plane. Najiah did not know who would be boarding in Washington DC. Najiah stated that she thought her brother Nawaf and her nephew Suleiman would t boarding the plane in Boston, Massachusetts. The plane would then proceec to Iceland for refueling before its ultimate destination in Geneva, Switzerland. REQ. 30-2 000000044 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy ''•-, ''•-. "''•••-To: Counterterronsm \. Re-:.., 265D-NY-280350-LA, //9/11 Personal Privacy From: Los Angela's/ 09/19/2001 / / . ''"•-.. '"-••-.... X On 09/1-7./2001, Naliatv'Binlad'en was interviewed at her home, I I I \. / ,//' \h was very upset over the re-cent attacks'/., as yiolencf'/is not the t^ay of l-.slam. Najiah stated that "she loves the'^^ited Spates, especially the li-ps Angeles regid-n. Najia'h stated that S'h@ intended to r4^u\rki to Saudi Arabia by the weekentl. Naj iah'xstated .that she-"-wa-s afraid toUl$a/ve her building, and wa anxiousX about her -safety. Najiah/'fra.s even more. Apprehensive\about the media finding her. ' \ // "'•--... H \n 09/18/,2001>, Najiah''' contacted SA| flight information-'' on 0 9 /1,9 / 2 0.6 1/. H f \h appeared to >be' very carry on reading materials w.erexall in English, ; and \sh.e carried her aba ye and her veil/in her travel ft'a^. Najiah enjoys yQg'a aftd\s out at the|~1 I 1 when ''she is at /her I ; \. telephone number f$ 1 / / land, her cellular nUmberj _ \h Monica, California. Wajia-'h .has her private pilot \s\, and flew her daughters to Las Vegas, .Nevada, with a co-pilot's-. assi'.sta\.nce . Najiah stated that she would irtuneHiately contact SA-.J : l \\r return to Najiah complimented SAl \n her ^ proficiency of classical \Arabic . Najiah told SA " \t she is welcome to come and visit .and stay in Najiah' s Jeddah home -any time. On 09/17/Z001, S A l I "I interviewed Mifcaa "Mike", Mirea Leu at ' I Mike stated that he is the caretaker of Ibrahim Binladen's house, located at ^the ] | address. Mike stated that Ibrahim and his wife, Muriira, departed Los Angeles, California, to take their children back to. start \school in Saudi Arabia. Mike stated that the return trip had been planned\for some time and was not an abrupt departure. \d that he was born in Ru citizen. Mike/ has been working off and on for Ibrahim Binladen since 1985. Mike actually resides with his wife, Nicolette, his son, and his • daughter in a small guesthouse on the grounds of Ibrahim's] \1 estate. Mike also pays all bills related to Naiiah'sX \. Mike shares a Bank of America checking account with Ibrahim ar^d Najiah ir order to pay their bills while they are gone. /Mike stated that neither Ibrahim nor Najiah talk about their brother, /Usama. Mike stated that it was his impression that th^e Binlader family does not associate or support Usama Binladen. Mike stated that Ibrahim-, his wife Munira, and their children only reside at the I I I Taddress a few weeks every year, usually in August and early Septemfcer. REQ. 30-2 000000045 To: Re: Counterterrorx^m From: Los Angeles 265D-NY-280350-LA, 09/19/2001 Mike stated that the last time he had seen Ibrahim, Ibrahim hac shown Mike a picture of Ibrahim, former President Jimmy Carter, and three of Ibrahim's brothers. Ibrahim said that the picture was taken in January 2001. Mike said that he would be willing to provide any additional assistance in the future to SA | | 9/11 Law Enforcement Privacy REQ. 30-2 000000046 To: Re: Counterterrorism From: Los Angeles 265D-NY-280350-LA, 09/19/2001 LEAD(s) : Set Lead 1: ALL RECEIVING OFFICES Read and clear. REQ. 30-2 000000047 WITHDRAWAL NOTICE RG: 148 Exposition, Anniversary, and Memorial Commissions SERIES: 9/11 Commission Team 5, FRC Box 31 NND PROJECT NUMBER: 51095 FOIA CASE NUMBER: 30383 WITHDRAWAL DATE: 11/19/2008 BOX: 00009 FOLDER: 0041 10 TAB: 3 DOC ID: 31206363 COPIES: 1 PAGES: The item identified below has been withdrawn from this file: FOLDER TITLE: Ryan Air Flight 441-Boston 9/20/01 DOCUMENT DATE: FROM: TO: SUBJECT: "Documents relating to all flight manifests for the following aricraft that departed the US in 9/2001 with Saudi nationals: Responsive to Requests #30-1 a thru f [Packet #l]"-re bin Laden flight DOCUMENT TYPE: Memorandum This document has been withdrawn for the following reason(s): 9/11 Classified Information WITHDRAWAL NOTICE ALL REPORTS AND CORRESPONDENCE PERTAINING TO THE DEPARTURE OF SAUDI ARABIAN NATIONALS FROM THE UNITED STATES ON SEPTEMBER 13 AND SEPTEMBER 14, 2001. FINAL DRAFT of RESPONSE to OCTOBER 2003 VANITY FAIR ARTICLE (RE: BINLADEN FAMILY DEPARTURES AFTER 09/11/2001) RESPONSIVE to REQUEST #14-4 "SECRET MATERIAL ENCLOSED" "THIS PACKET CONTAINS SENSITIVE CRIMINAL AND/OR INTELLIGENCE INFORMA TION PERTAINING TO TERRORISM RELATED INVESTIGATIONS" COMMISSION COPY NCTA000088227 PENTTBOM 09/17/2003 Rvan International Flight 441 from St. Louis. .MO: Los Angeles. CA: Orlando. FL: Washington. DC: and Boston. MA Reference allegations about Osama Binladen relatives departing the US before the lifting of flight restrictions. On 09/19/2001, Ryan Internationa! Airlines, flight number 441, was contracted by the Saudi Embassy to make several stops in the US to pick up various Saudi individuals for expeditious departure from the United States. Ryan International Flight 441 ultimately departed Boston, MA to leave the country at approximately 2:05 am EST on 09/20/2001. Flight restrictions had been lifted at this time, -•v Ryan International Airlines flight 441 originated in St. Louis, Missouri and made stops in Los Angeles, California; Orlando, Florida; Washington, District of Columbia (Dulles); and Boston, Massachusetts before departing the United States. Flight 441 picked up the following passengers at those airports: Name Najia Binladen Khalil Binladen Sultan Binladen Maria M. F. Bayma Shafig Binladen Akberali Moawalla Omar Awad Binladen Kholoud Osama Kurdi Badr Ahmed Binladen Nawaf Bakr Binladen Reem Hamza Asar Omar Saleh Almadoudi Faisal Saleh Almadoudi Mohammed Saleh Binladen Salman Salem Binladen Tamara Khalil Binladen Sana'a Mohammed Binladen Mohammed Awed Aljohi Hasan Awed Aljohi Suyati B. T. Sumiran Sadar Faisal Khalid Binladen Salem Ali Salem Alyateai Almtasim Mazen Alsawwaf Departure City Los Angeles, CA Orlando, FL Orlando, FL Orlando, FL Washington, DC Washington. DC Washington, DC Washington, DC Washington, DC Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston, MA Boston. MA Boston. MA Interviewed by the FBI? Case Opened? No No No No Yes Yes No' No' Yes No No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes" Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes No No No No No No No No No No No Yes Yes Yes No No No'" Yes Yes Yes No No No No "Sultan Binladen and Maria M.F. Bayma accompanied Khalil Binladen, who had been interviewed three times. "Reem Hamza Asar wase present during the interview of Faisal Saleh Almadoudi. *"Sadar was not interviewed because she was the maid for the group Najiah Binladen was escorted by FBI LA to a charter terminal at LAX. Khalil Binladen and his family \vere escorted by FBI TP to the airport in Orlando, FL. REQ 14-4 ooooooois NCTA000088246 -1 Law Enforcement Sensitive 9/11 Personal Privacy REPUBLIC OF GABON-FLAGGED (from Las Vegast • On 09/11/2001. SA's interviewed management of the Four Seasons Jioiel and Caesar's Palace.| On 09/18/2001, SAC Grant Ashley, FBI Las Vegas and SAC Joseph Saitta, United States Secret Service (b'SSS), met with Saudi Arabian Prince ABDUL MAJEED ABpUL AZIZ and liis representatives. The Saudi Arabian's were asked to provide a manifest of.their entire party and photocopies of each person's passport. A total of 69 names with \s were checked against th Watch List matches were discovered. 3 individuals from this flight were interviewed by the FBI because of the following nonderogatoiy information in IIIA: On 09/19/2001, Flight DC-8-73, Tail number TR-LTZ a chartered, Republic of Gabonflagged DC-8-73 departed Las Vegas, Nevada with the final destination of Geneva, Switzerland. The FBI cleared 46 Saudi passengers to board this flight. There were three (3) children under the age of 18 aboard this flight ages 11,9 and 5. Prior to its departure, the aircraft was swept, perimeter security was provided, and all persons boarding were matched to a previously-obtained manifest and photocopies of passports by Agents and Officers of the USCS. 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