Richard bandler -neuro-hypnotic repatterning Im just somebody who knows things about how the unconscious andthe conscious work together, I know things about the motor cortex uh theres somebody that told me they had a pain in there back, and eh eh I think you should tell them to get out uh lots of people here have strange aches and pains um I don’t know what it was is I read thru the things ive done this a number of times and it and its and they all have em in the same place, think about that everybody seems to have a pain in the back and then theres some people that have pains all over the place, free floating pain, um so, I wanted to st I wanted to start out this morning uh by uh doing a couple of things, cause theres a couple of things that I, I think are real important uh 1 is is it will not help you to be stressed out while this is going on I know some of you are already chatting away to yourself yak yak yak yak yakyak yak yak..if u find yourself talking too much just repeat the mantra, shut the fuck upshut the fuck up shut the fuck up shut the fuck up and keep saying it faster and faster and faster and faster, until you bore yourself into silence, um I know in India they use much more interesting uh uh mantras then that I find this one is highly effective that uh to me if you cant quiet on the inside you’ll have trouble listening on the outside, which is what im interested in your doing the other thing is is uh how many of you have done hypnosis before, and know it, how many of you have not done hypnosis before as far as you know., ok, cause ill guarantee u you’ve been in trances, and ya know, you’ve been in an elevator and the doors opened and you stepped out and it wasn’t your floor ya know it was just the first time the doors opened uh the light changes and you don’t um your sitting there and reading something and somebody is calling your name over and over again and you don’t even here them, these are all altered states that uh, I know some of you have done altered states before by way of taking drugs uh, but remember its not the drugs that alter your state its your bodies reaction to them and we are all altering our state all the time the word hypnosis I think is is is in it in in and of itself especially now a daze ive found out that uh, in in Eden burl im not supposed to actually do hypnosis in a theater, but I can do it in hotel conference rooms, (ex)splain that to me which which politician made up that law , if its actually a theater and they have plays and other shows and stuff there, then u cant do hypnosis in the room, however if it’s a hotel conference room, then its fine, um explain to me ha one room one or the other and how can they make a law against something they don’t believe exists, this is the thing that they, they go there is no such thing as hypnosis and you cant do it here, um when I started out years ago uh they always told me they said, they said, don’t learn hypnosis cuz I said I was to me its I like to learn everything about everything I can its like if I if I was gunna learn about driving a car I was gunna learn how the engine works, the drive train and actually rebuild a whole car so I understood it, cuz I had a feeling someday Id be going down the road it might break and id wanna know the best I could about what to do about it especially the way I drive cuz I have only 2 speeds, very very fast and all out um hm hm uh when I was young I don’t drive so much anymore especially in this country cuz everybody is on the other side of the road and I have a tendency to be forget ful about certain things, um hmm my wife is always calling me and going did u put something on the stove, and id go ooo yea god that was four hours ago, and ill go in and there’d be this black spot where my cheese sandwich was suppose to be, and id go but uh hm hm there just hypnotic metaphor relax (there too close) there too close huh, that’s what ( I was it was ya know it was to get high. is when you think about something else. really don’t need drugs. ya know ive had many many clients that tell me they think about stuff in the past and they cant stop thinking about it. and they were giving people drugs to try and get them to not hallucinate pl would end up haveing strange behaviors. um I mean when I grew up in the 60s if you took drugs it was to hallucinated. sound familiar? Its where I got the idea from. just so I can get the most out of all that unpleasantness um that. (its on there) cheese sandwich was on the list? (no no no) can u remember what was . and then they just let them wander around and talk to each other . I uh there wasn’t a single page that I read that didn’t have the word fear on it repeatedly sometimes it was even used in a positive sense ya know its like ya know I wanna get rid of my fear of failure. and it seems to me that people who are hallucinating floridly. that’s a Yiddish word for for nonsense. coma ward yea hi how ya doin. had books all over the house things like abnormal behavior um which um I could do pretty much all of that stuff um u you know things like the treatment of schizophrenics although inside this 3 volume set there was not a single thing that you could actually do other than prescribe drugs. bc what I want u to consider is really too fold. u remember that it was there? (not the cheese sandwich) not the cheese sandwich well see your already remembering better hmm hmm no the other thing is is that I have a fu I have a funny belief which does not match any body else’s who comes from the field of psychology which I don’t my BG is primarily in physics and uh I I just got into this by accident I was in college I was in a house owned by a psychiatrist I read all the books and I couldn’t find anything that you could do hundreds of them. what? ( I missed that one before you said that a dozen times and I missed it. one is if u can get rid of the michigoss that was on your lists. and I start talking about giving a group sleeping pills. you have fear about your worrying it’s a very complex process its like you guys have a lot of extra time. that’s very complex nonsense though not just easy nonsense its complicated nonsense it. coma ward and I went yea. now some of some of you by the way I think are a bit obsessive.) see I made it so easy this time. your late.hoping to learn something about this from you) you are gunna learn something about this from me im just bringing up things to see what u guys didn’t put on your lists. it’s not like that bill Clinton stuff where ya know you just come out and lie and went u . well the trick is its your brain. the first couple a daze things may be built blurry I guarantee you they will clear up as we get to the end some things will get clearer but there are some things that you need to blur out. ya know. there pretty much there all ready. plus they put all these crazy people and they out em in one room. you got lost huh? You think your lost now wait wait till this evening. and then I start talking about working in a coma word. and also theres a couple of little tricks im going to teach you that turn certain things off and turn certain things around that for me I find that uh uh strange things happen for example each time I teach a group[ there are little different things. I read your lists and uh that some of you even like you had like you wrote it down like it was a work schedule like well first I have to have anxiety that’s nine to ten ya know and then from ten to eleven ya know I have to worry about stuff from when my childhood and relive it. and no body got it the all went. but end in the training seminar think about it this was the trainers training seminar these people are supposed to know all this nlp and I here these people in the background talking about how there tracking what im doin. right and I mean that’s really thing that’s like double worry not only are you worried about failing . but you know when you don’t think about stuff like that . but politicians get away with a lot.get caught u know u just lie some more uh I love that when they asked him at the hearing they said well you know you said that you ya know that that it is not the case that you had sex with his woman and he goes how could you possibly say that that’s true and he said well that depends upon what you mean by the word is. we call that murder once people are dead you can do pretty much anything you want to em. ya know that ya know that when something big and horrendous is coming up that you have to fight your way thru then most people end up making it much worse instead of making themselves went of though where there bosses were and made a social fo pa that they probably shouldn’t have told me about um b/c the truth is the people that made the social fo pa is the group I come from. what is what is the definition of is? Um And he was content with that that’s ya know and he got away with it. Um but then they know how to wield power but he didn’t really fool anyone everybody knows its just that most people don’t care he’s not the first president to have sex with somebody I don’t think uh after all remember the Kennedy’s were in the white house at that time ya know it was just like the playboy mansion um ya know only ya know theres a lot less action at the playboy mansion um the Kennedy brothers did fine im sure some of the politicians over here have sex im not always sure with whom um(or what) or what yea ill never forget the first time I came to London uh ya know uh I got up in the morning and I was staying in the waldorf on the strand and it was I had a window that looked out on the strand and it was just absolutely lovely . um we don’t call that a sexual scandal. some things go in the in hole and some things go out the out hole and when u mix those things up your in trouble. right and he was dead right and uh they said. the question is did he die from this ? Uh ya know and as far as I know bananas aren’t really that lethal. normal dating behavior don’t u think? Uh that ya know but she must have had a dress to wear out so my question is who’s dress was this? Ya know cuz I found that in the end uh politicians sometimes the power makes em crazy they get a little kinky um but ya know as long as there busy doing that stuff I figure there not blowing up places . sexual scandal right so where I come from we call that murder. and uh but the thing is is to me its not about whether you’ve made mistakes I can tell you ya know why u have problems you were born that’s it if you weren’t born you wouldn’t have any problems. but they they don’t really belong up your ass either. with a banana up his ass. Um ya know its id its like with bill Clinton I always wonder because if Monica ya know had all this stuff on this dress that she took and put in a safety deposit box. and and most people would have. which is good. now that you know why you can forget about why the question is how do you turn it around in a new directions so let let me let me ask you to do one thing just before we start cuz I I know just by lookin at ya I know your pretty relaxed but then you’ve been thru this before just thinking about it your in one of these green rooms your already trancin out . and uh an this guy came and knocked on the door and he brought my breakfast in and the newspaper was on the top and it said mp found ya know and then I I looked and it said I read he was hanging from the ceiling tied up in fish net stockings. that ya know I think its not such a bad I idea that I think that presidents should be required to have a blowjob 3 or 4 times a day all of em just so they don’t get tense ya know and end up doing something stupid ya know and the ya know the parliament would probably not be a bad idea either they get wrapped up and they say the get tense and they start passing laws we had to face something that was unavoidable and unpleasant but the fact is you didn’t have to make it worse. im surprised he didn’t cut a hole in it to see if there was air see to me most of the reason that I find over the years that most people find difficulty is . uh you know theres always people that due really stupid things uh and it always amazes me I and uh I have a whole collection in of uh where Ive cut out articles out of the newspaper of some of the brilliant things thieves a bank robber in san Francisco who writes the note that he passes to the teller on his own deposit slip. none of that hesitating stuff you’ll get down under the water and its over.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 13 MINS you realize that you know 2 hours from now your gunna enter the see of trance oh by the way I I I I think this is kind of cute I went to the doctors in the us I brought my wife who’d been very ill into uh a hospital and to see actually lenny brother who’s a doctor and when I was there he looked at me and said I think you should come back tomorrow ill reserve the afternoon and uh he gave me all kinds of test and all kinds of things and he asked me he said ya know have u not been sleeping well and I said well I normally don’t sleep that much I said but I really have slept at all ya know I only used to sleep 2 or 3 hours a night but uh I said I haven’t even been sleeping that recently I said I just for some reason go to sleep I wake right back up and he said well i want you to sleep more he said ya know cuz its effecting you health and so he gave me these pills and I didn’t really look at I just took the prescription in and I got the pills and when I got home I looked at em there called trance zone is that not a great name for a pill I thought trance zone ill have to try one of these and boy are they you um ya know I don’t normally take sleeping pills and things like that I I don’t even drink coffee im too wired already people are always going would u like a cup of coffee and I go you don’t wanna see me on coffee ill have one cup now and then but if i drink coffee like must people do buzz I have to go out and sand a couple telephone poles down I begin to become agitated. I begin to get as tense as you guys some of you are here some of you are got jaws that are like got marbles in em you gotta relax it’s a hypnosis seminar for Christ’s sake you cant be nervous here it wont help but I it really wont I mean if your gunna be nervous be nervous at the right time you know when to be nervous be nervous in the ocean no boat good time to be nervous right that way you’ll drown right away. figured ya know that it would look like normal behavior in the bank he could get away with it except that it had his address and his name on it so when he got home the fbi were there they were havin a beer making themselves lunch in his house when he came in and he went how did u find me? And they said that you left your name and address he forgot to take the note with took the money and didn’t take the not I consider that very stupid behavior I also consider this very stupid behavior guy who has a boat uh and uh its very very dirty on the inside so he decided he wants to wash it out so before he does that he decides that he needs to let the water have a place to go out. right and he was picked up by the coast guard just before he died and the cost guard said why didn’t u bring the boat ashore put it in the dry dock or something it wasn’t even that big of boat it was just a little sailboat and he said well it seemed to me that there was plenty of water there to clean it with and he didn’t wanna wait that long cuz it was sticky on the bottom guess that’s what happens when u go fishing in a sail boat you get all the fish guts and stuff and he wanted to wash it out didn’t wait till he got to shore drilled a whole and you cant imagine what happened the boat sank right actually the fiberglass ones don’t actually sink they just turn upside down so you have the smooth slippery side you cant hold onto so he just drifted away in his life vest. none of that paddling around for hours looking for something. so he drills a hole in it. that’s it those are the only ones that are ya know are built in all the rest you have to learn ya know and so some people learn to be afraid of things that are so complicated that ya know its taken years to learn it but its still not useful.that they’re doing something unnecessary but its become a habit its become as automatic as a handshake most of the fears that you people have are learned behavior . therapist believe that you have to feel really bad to change. and u know the guy went over and asked for it? Few minutes later he had handcuffs on now that falls in the category of stupid as far as im concerned. and how did they kill themselves? I ironically with pills. they didn’t jump off of bridges they killed themselves with pills hey hey how are you doing? guess what 9 out of 10 of you have on your lists something about that you would wanna get thru Is procrastinating ya know. help kids with multiple sclerosis sand stuff o i shoved the envelope inside the thing and walked back in the bathroom and uh there was a guy coming out and he looked very angry. i shouldn’t stick my nose in other pals business but that’s what my business is now the thing that i want you to realize is is that whenever you make changes that are gunna really be beneficial for you theres 2 characteristics to them 1 they will feel good. I know its anti therapeutic. only 2 natural fears falling and loud noises. but then look at them. psychiatrists for years an years and years had the highest suicide rate. um he looked really angry clutching the satchel and as i walked by I bumped in to him I said I said oh excuse me I said i said that ya know this is a great bathroom I said ya know they give money away in here and this guy looked at me and he went they give money away and I went yea I just found a big envelope of it and he went were is the envelope? And i said oh I gave it to charity i said i don’t take money if i didn’t earn it and he went you gave it to charity and i went yea you see that police man over there? And he said yea I said uh I gave it to him. as i was I just i didn’t want to get In serious trouble cuz lord knows it could be the dea or something so I ya know ididnt want tog et arrested for being a drug dealer when i wasn’t one. but I didn’t want to leave the money sitting there either its against my nature to do that so as i walked along there was one of those nice little things they have that say ya know give to the march of dimes. so the question is too fold one is how do you learn something better the reason i want to know what it is you do want is cuz you have a machine already in you that can build problems so if you don’t build a machine inside that build a better direction so that you take opportunity ya know if you see a 50 lb note laying on the ground u wanna pick it up first then ask whether or not its dirty right otherwise it will end up in someone else hand uh im always surprised i walk all over London and new York and Chicago and everywhere i go I find money laying on the ground sand people walk right over it. and now the trains doing it now in san fransit in san Francisco every form of public . right and they don’t have a built in thing that goes money some where pick it up right and if they do they’ll stop and look at it ill see it and ill look at them and ill walk over and pick it up and they’ll just be staring at it and they’ll go I saw it first and I go yes and I took it first uhm uh actually i went in a bathroom in a the airport in uh Houston and when when i walked in to the the little toilet stall in there there was a uh a an ehnvelope sitting on top of the toilet right and I picked up the ehnvelope and I opened it and it was full of 100 dollar bills that thick right and I thought what could this possibly be doing in a bathroom right and then I heard a guy in the next stall like tearing the toilet apart and I looked down and there was a big satchel there and I thought hmm i think ive just walked into the middle of a drug deal so i thought g what a g great idea so i took the money and i walked out of the bathroom. um ya know its all starving to death ya know I mean it was a nice idea but see they were going this this is how horrible were being treated as opposed to look out otherwise we gunna treat u this way see to me u either move towards pleasure or you move away from pain the trouble is if u move away from pain for example lots of people motivate themselves by waiting until the stress level goes up see they go oh ive got two weeks to do that so instead of going pfff getting it done while they have time so that they have lots of free time what they do is they go well Ill put it off so they wait a week and they go god i got 7 whole days right and they go I could probably get this done in two days so they wait 5 days and when they get and theres only 2 days left they get a phone call and there aunt says im coming over and bringing the 5 kids right ya know so then you have to go out and shop and buy food for all these extra people u suddenly have all these extra tasks so instead of having two days u have a place now that’s noisy and u cant get it done so suddenly you start going ss goes i gotta start on it now i really do but i gotta do this first and this first and this first and then Ill do it ill do it this afternoon. but the plain will actually be leaving at 9 now how can its time of departure be 78 if its leaving at 9 um they have a way of doing that they put u in the plain and make u sit there for 2 extra hours even though your only taking a 30 minute flight to la this is what happens when u put people in charge of things and they’re not having the experience its a like the people who decide to feed the homeless. Ya know and uh this one minister said to me he said well ya know he said uh y don’t u come down to the mission and when i went down to the mission i couldn’t believe it they had navy beans they had refried beans right and they had loaves of white bread and I thought how do the refried beans fit with the loaf of white bread ya know that’s I guess to sop It up with or something and then they had bean soup right soup with beans just floating in it and i thought o yea they give these guys 5 different kinds of beans I hope no body lights a cigarette in here place could go up in a boom. and uh they feed them thee kind of food that that homeless don’t wanna eat ya know but uh we do that in san Francisco all the time we give them things like ya know big plates of beans right for people who have trouble finding bathrooms giving them beans is not a good thing y a know and theres nothing worse than 200 guys ya know sitting in in a hall having just eaten beans and having to listen to prayer. then when u get home mid this afternoon u start thinkin about dinner ya go o ill make dinner and ill do it this evening now theres only one day left right and of course that’s the day u were suppose to go out and make copies of this made ya know and so what happens well you get really nervous ya go I can make .transportation procrastinates um what i like is that they say that this morning the flights will not be leaving on time there time of departure is 7. based on a couple of things based on the things that we do hear cuz the first thing I wanna do is teach u a little bit about relaxation now i know some of you have done this before u certainly have no trouble going into a trance he was he was in one of the seminars I did over in at the what do you call that place the congress center is that what its called? they always told me it was the puc tuc o tuc congress center. Anyway I tell ya what id like you to do sometime today or early tomorrow morning I want u to get a list of what u think u can actually change. those initials don’t match and its got the most morose statue of any place Ive ever been have u seen the statue that’s In there it’s absolutely horrible ya know Its just this down trodden beaten person if you if you wanna be a good trade union u should have big guys with muscles that look like there gunna punch ya not guys that look like they just got run over by a fork lift. but lots of people go out and spend money and try to do this with a knife and it never looks realistic excuse me knives . If not that they wake up then they feel the warmth of the sheets and they say I don’t wanna get up and then they start threating themselves they go if you don’t get up you’ll be late and they go ooo but it feels so good to lay here. That like really asking for it ya know i go thru the books and some of u didn’t give me a picture there is a reason i asked for the picture right and then the picture is is I memorize all of this stuff then I attach it to your face so when im doing things i do certain things for some people and certain things for another if your just a faceless person im gunna start giving you someone else changes and you you may discover that’s not as interesting as u think i mean so if theres somebody here who wants breast enlargement some of u guys are gunna be in trouble ya know im gunna look over and go i don’t recognize this one this most be the one who wants the big breasts actually actually she didn’t want it she wanted her intuitions to be better got blurred out so it just said ya know that she wanted she wanted more and bigger tits. but if your late you’ll lose your job if u come in the middle of the class everybody will turn and look at you you’ll be embarrassed. that’s admitting you a procrastinator if u ask me. um the rest of it go t blurred in the fax machine but i thought breast enlargement i can do that ive done that before hypnotically and its not really that difficult if u think about women do it all the time when they get pregnant./c its not nice o to make Richard mad when your gunna be in a deep trance for 3 days. breasts get big so they must be something u can effect. and it goes on and on and on until u make it so unpleasant you get up or else you your body at the unconscious level makes it so u have to pee so bad u force to get up now theres nothing fun about this see by the same token theres lots of people that motivate themselves by making things more and more pleasant what im gunna hope bc I know lots of you had on there things about procrastinating is is that we can create sensations which are pleasant enough that you’ll be drawn to them and i wanted to start by seeing if ewe can turn one feeling around bc i I think If u can turn one feeling around it ill begin to give u an idea about how to do this with lots of things.the copies this afternoon theres an all night place ya know you wait and then you start waiting and waiting until the tension gets to the point where u cant stand it.. Now what I want u to is i want u to stop and think about what ever you list was whether u turned It in or not some of u didn’t and those of u who didn’t will find a way to give me one b. When i was in college they used to dole out the work at the beginning of the quarter and I use to right all the term papers the first week or two and take off and go to Mexico I come back read the books and take the final s and uh ya know even when i got my graduate degree i had to give a a what a what the call a colloquium its a speech that u have to give about what you dissertation was about i was late bc I couldn’t find the campus cause i didn’t remember where it was ya know most of the people that were at the college were still In the middle of finals while It was goin on and the y were just freaking out and they were going oh now i have to write all these term papers I have to study for all these finals at the same time so they had enough stress that they could start working but not enough time do do everything and you see when u use that as a motivation then the unpleasant thing about it Is u have to go to your doctor and he goes G your blood pressure is a little high like away high and uh you say well and they go are you under any pressure and u say all the time cuz in fact pl that do this to get up in the morning they fight a battle they lay in bed and the alarm goes of e e e e e and they have one of those things you hit that gives you 10 more mins of sleep. to me i saw this all thru the human potential movement I saw people hugging trees ya know i tried everything i went thru I saw people getting naked and pretending that the weren’t i mean i had more fun I went to esselin institute and they told me o ya know the whole group now is a gestalt session and i actually went as an editor i was tryin to get fritz to finish his book and uh I finally found the easy way to that by the way he died. and I also when i went to the fire walk i have to admit i was kinda mean bc i threw a big steak on there something about the smell of burning flesh it’ll make ya make me a slightly different decision if u look down at hot coals and think cool moss id say your perceptions are off a little bit the fact that you can hypnotically make it so you can cross hot coals well u pick a thing up out of the fireplace all the time and you throw it back in i know this is possible but when u look at that big pit of fire and think I cant do this its just like everything else. instead of turning there fear Into courage they turned there fear into compulsion. there are people that come up[ to me and say ive done 55 firewallks. well who wouldn’t? but if you think unlimited wealth is gunna make u happy. it was actually in the after life btw but i didn’t mind it was my job at the time. and its just that simple if you cant enjoy a dollar that ya know if you cant enjoy a hundred pounds your sure not gunna be able to go out and enjoy a million pounds ya know it has to make it every bit is more enjoyable and the process of acquiring it human beings do a lot of things that i consider to be totally ridiculous for fun. people walk across hot coals for fun not bc they are running from a fire bc Tony tells them them it will turn there fear Into courage. you realize people jump out of airplanes for fun think about It its not even broke n or nothing and they get up In the airplane. um everybody ive ever seen who had plastic surgery looked worse afterwards than you could possibly imagine i work a lot sometimes with movies stars and ill tell ya ya know ha-ha ill see them and then ill see them a year later and they’ll look absolutely hideous they’ll look like something out of a Frankenstein movie ya know with a kind of a lizard look to it and uh ill say ill say what happened to you and they said o i just had a little snip cut here everybody in Hollywood’s getting plastic surgery its gotten totally outtalk hand teenagers are like doing it like chopping there nose off and getting breast enlargement having there chin changed and i mean to me ya know its Like if you wanna change things the pace to change it Is from inside bc when you start feeling really good bc one of the big questions you have to answer here Is how much pleasure can u stand? Bc if u get rid of the mishigose which is the complicated nonsense and some of you had pages and pages and pages of it some of you had very vague goals that you’d like id like unlimited wealth. here’s the the thing Tony said to me one time he said sometimes people don’t get It and i said like me i don’t get it when I look at bar when i look at a big thing of hot coals i think charcoaled steak maybe a little corn. i can do anything. um so I just went ahead and wrote it for people said ya know fritz got so clear at the end of his life. bc that’s what it did with him but uh unfortunately not everybody generalizes quite that way. your dead wrong its just gunna give you more to worry about b/c if you can enjoy what you have you cant really enjoy more. but uh when i walked in and saw people talking to empty furniture ya know I they told em he had worked with neurotic people but this was way beyond neurosis people were look in . so that now they were still afraid to walk across hot coals but they did it anyway over and over and over again. something like that.are not a a Instrument of beauty. that it would make u turn around and say. and i say what did you only do the first 54 only half way. I mean hats the obsession here. Tony assumed that I if you could achieve one thing you couldn’t do. hallucinate dead relatives. he didn’t know enough about genetics to know that he was the problem. they actually got this guy to beat the crap out o an empty chair. you can be afraid without changing your body chemistry these are not simple acts they are very complex acts that you’ve learned to do over the years you’ve learned to generalize from those two fears to lots of fears no w I know I I theres somebody in here that told me they had a fear of public speaking im just wondering whether or not sometimes people have a fear of public speaking don’t raise there hand see its on e of those things some years ago there was a paranoid schizophrenic and he was dying of aids and he was a paranoid schizophrenic and he had a daughter and the agencies where trying to figure out what to do with his little girl so they set up a meeting with all the agencies in san Francisco and uh they called me bc I had been taking car e of the little girl and they said is Tony there and i said no Tony doesn’t even know where i live as far as i know tony id s a bed ridden age patient and hes living in a little apartment and they went we know we went to the apartment we were supposed to have a meeting with him and d hes not there. they really wanted to have a male heir then what he really need to do was to have someone do it for him. that’s good really good. but furnitality that’s a whole new one for me and what was weird is that the guy leading the group turned around an said what does he say to u and everybody in the room turned and looked at the empty chair i looked d over and still there was a lot more nothing tin that chair then I d seen b before. um ya know i Ive heard of homosexuals pppl who are in to bestiality. hes late and I said so what your telling me is that 12 agencies told him ahead o time that you were going to converge on his apartment and the paranoid schizophrenic didn’t show up and this surprises you i say you guys really are professionals professional idiots that you would you would you wouldn’t expect a paranoid schizophrenic to be ya know a graceful host its probably the only time he’d been out t of that apartment for two years he probably crawled out for gods sake ya know that’s why they call them paranoid schizophrenics. that would make me paranoid too wouldn’t you i mean i just think about the fact that your watchin tv and somebody hops out and follows you around and starts naggin which was his thing for ex he lived in the us we have a lot of preachers on television in the us the us hasn’t hasn’t got a history of religion like this country has where some king just kicked out all the ya know he said all the Catholics out and were just gunna make our own religion. he bought get out of sin free cards. then attack empty furniture.at empty furniture goin and you never loved me and i was going hmmf a love affair with a chair. think of the formula. but to me that y a know the idea when they talked about racial purity during that Bosnian thing. argue with them. these are not people who have studied genetics its kind of like the story of Noah’s arc Where ya know Noah collected ya know together 1 family . that would make your life better don’t u think. um over the ears ive had some absolutely wonderful ones i had one where people climb of the TV and follow him around. and that was all about the fact that he had bought pontiffs. too many y chromosomes. and im in charge. I sort of like the ideal myself you can buy ahead of time if you think your gunna do something really bad you u buy a couple of these things and the pope sold em to him then he wouldn’t let em use em for y a know he went look no more wives for you. so the rule of thumb for mental health is hallucinate get angry and attack your hallucination um this doesn’t seem likes its gunna make people have better lives im a little more practical than that I like to make it so u end up really realizing that all change occurs at the chemical level cant get angry without changing your body chemistry. behind It was a a 70 ft monolith that then the sign says on the front of tit that they took this from front the front of the library in Alexandra ya know and and that It was a gift I like that one you appoint a governor of a country you conquer and he gives you stuff. that’s the name of that but uh this big mon this big monolith hug I mean ya know it had to be n act of god to move this thing prop it up and of course they they didn’t couldn’t take the real sphinx only bc they didn’t have a big enough boat otherwise im sure they would of and but they built two Two uh big bronze things to hold it up and uh I kept looking at it I thought it was a replica silly me I thought they’d look at this thing you know they take some pictures of it and build one just like ya know it would be easier than swiping one and uh as it turns out where’s the other one cuz there was one at either door in front of the library the other one is in central park in ny like we really need an Egyptian monument there now I cant imagine how much money was spent ya know they said look they said somebody mad em a deal they said look you take the one on the right side ill take the one on the left side well put one on the thames cuz u really need an Egyptian monument on the thames ya know I mean what would the thames be without a big 60 70 ft Egyptian monument and of course you still haven’t stopped now uve built the worlds biggest ferris wheel and um ya know my kids have just come over and visit me and they went oh we want to see the ferris wheel and I said well just look at this little tiny wheel I have here and In your mind make it really big and that’s what it is and then seeing like a billion dollars in the river floating away but to me they ya know there going constantly stuff like that I keep thinking about the horrendous amount of waste we have in the us we spend money ya know for example they decided to put 2 more trident submarines we don’t even have an enemies left anymore ya know r r r enemy now is is all moved by the way to the us and everywhere else ya know half of Russia moved over there ya know you can always tell them cuz there always in suit pants with loafers that’s the new Russian uniform and uh there driving all the taxis and there running businesses all over the place there apparently the new mafia of the world its that uh like the old one was going out of business I guess so they moved in and took over gambling prostitution al of those things that ya know we . That good we have a name for that too. that’s why there’s nothing left out the i went into he british museum and i i couldn’t believe it the stuff u guys swiped. its a i id like it you go into an Indian restaurant and there are people from all Japanese in here and a there’ll be Americans and English the English’s favorite food ins Indian food. they say the sun never sets on the empire guess what its set you discover its a lot better to just hold to your own rather than having to support the entire world uh cuz after all you have all the valuable stuff in the British museum anyway. and I ya know i think that’s great and but of course they use the we use o own that huh you use to own everything. though shall not make steel no no no how does that trance late i cant quite get that one o by the way take the top off the Parthenon and move it over here ( we just found it) I know u just found it laying around um when i used to stay in a hotel over the Thames. its like ya know its like ya you guys sitting in one hand reading the ten commandment s ya know skipping over r the shall not steal one. GOD ya know. that we all know the bigger the jean pool the better.and two of each animal like to repopulate the earth. but actually as we mix things together we work out better its one of the reasons i like London there’s all people from all walks of life and different racial things and stuff all running around in the same trance. lying. and this is not the work of a geneticist. im the one that drags the guy with an elevator phobia into the elevator kicking and biting all the way just to make sure hes not lying to me about it. and they go and they go some they go something is I love this great hypnotic command while someone is in a trance something is wrong with your heart and I go yes sir I can do that but better we use your heart instead now what I wanna do is to try something so you have a fear of getting up in front of an audience. right there ok keep doing it i didn’t tell u to stop no you’ll know when I want you to stop to be easy now double the size of the picture so u really can get some of this fear back might s well do it right for the last time now what I want u to do is tell me where does it move . bleep bleep bleep bleep. so they end of giving blood pressure medicine to all these people and then they end up almost dying f from it bc they didn’t need it its only when they were having there blood pressure checked they get so tense when they ere doing it that what would happen is is when they would relax and take the blood pressure medicine there blood pressure would drop down so low that they would start to pass out ya know u can have terrible things happen ya know they didn’t realize that especially when doctors say things to you like that they go put stickers on your chest with these wires going didt diddt diidt and they go let me check your heart that sort of sounds like something’s wrong with it already ya know and u sit there and iota goes didun didun and they found out that if when they were checking people heart that a lot of the stuff they can find cuz they can find when it makes sounds that it shouldn’t make of course they can listen and find that out to but they have other machines they give u eegs with paper coming of o it and they look at that paper and looka t you out of the corner of there eye and thy go emm hmm ooo ya know that’s enough o give u a fuckin heart attack right there see I like to do things like when they put on hose monitors.just cant seem to get rid of but govt spend billions and billions of dollars I figured out if they spent the budget in the use trying to cure disease and feed hungry people and not just in the us worldwide we could probably do an excellent job with the budget that we spend trying to keep drugs out of the country unsuccessfully be one thing if they even worked remotely but all it does is drive the price up and with the amount that comes in figured out what the budget that they spend in the us I could personally go out and buy more drugs than they can impound and I could probably get em a better price ya know in a year they impounded ya know 3 million tons of cocaine but in order to do it they paid more than you would pay for cocaine if u bought it on the street cut ya know its just ridiculous ya know and I think that the govt ahs to stop at some point wasting money on these things and start focusing on things that are worth while with me if u focus on your fears if u think about the things your afraid of for example one of the things that I find lovely is they found out that when people go and have there heart and there blood pressure checked there blood pressure goes way up right. ive done yoga for years n years n years I got into as altered a state as I can and I slow my heart rate down I can get it down o 8 12 beats a minute right then I can quiet it and the heart monitor is going like this bleep. and talking right but you can sit here and your fine makes a lot of sense don’t u think not its just a different chair and this chairs no different than that one and if you were standing here next to me you’d be afraid? Well is It probably or definitely? Uh cuz im gunna make u do It in a few mins they didn’t warn u im a no fuck around kinda guy. see before you do let me just ask you something stop and think about the last time you had to get up in front of a group and u got afraid just close your eyes wee what u saw at the time ok until u begin to feel the fear tell me where does it start in the body. anytime u feel like closing your eyes its ok I don’t mind its just that when your mind is ready to do important things you know what’s on your wish list and you know what needs to be changed on the inside cuz its not that outside stuff that you kept talking about its not ya know that ya know that you need a million dollars first u need to learn to be really happy without it then its really easy to make a million dollars When u don’t need it then its really easy to get there bc your mind is clear somebody wrote a line which im going to repeat over and over and over again they said they want to do things out of fascinations rather than desperation and i thought that was a really elegant way of putting it that when u wait till the last minute then u desperately force yourself to do things so that u when its already too late then it’s a struggle when I ask you in a few mins to come up here right if you just came up here and tried to get out of your fear it would be to late the trick is is to be able to take your fear and turn it around which way was it spinning by the way so over the top like this now i want u to try something I want u to keep thinking about the event only while u do i want u to try something physical cuz to me the thing we have to change in the end is your body chemistry your body learned that it could keep spinning this around and it could keep fear moving this way now so that u understand physically what I want u to do it starts here moves up and spins this way ok so what i want u to do is to try something a little different what I ant u to do is just think about your . is it doubling the size o that image always helps there’s something bigger the pictures the more you respond to that’s why if your making great big pictures of terrible things them make them really small then turn them all the way to white and the won’t bother you so much but before you do let me ask you so it moves up to your chest right and then what happens how do you stay afraid now because if it just stayed in one place it would habituate the nerves and you wouldn’t be able to feel it what it has to do is it has to move. it rolls backwards it rolls around this way it rolls around that way sometimes it just moves in a circle circle this way you can do it anyway you want whatever way you’ve learned to scare the hell out of yourself ya know otherwise you would start having fear and puffs you’d forget about it it is rolling yea I know ive done this before its not my first time u know when I did my first time I just tried it with individual clients and stuff what happened is I found out I was doing the same thing over and over and over again so I thought what the hell ill put them all in the same room and they said group therapy and i said no group therapy you go around and do different things I found out ya know u can take one person and suddenly other people well begin to try the same things especially if while im talking im doing something else like this one here guys already going hes sitting too close to me see hes already his mind is going down hes going nope its not time to go into a trance yet don’t get sleepy that right some of them have been around me before they realize im nothing but a big trance right iim kinda like one of those trance zone pills myself I spin around a d sooner or later I create a big whirlpool and everybody just comes down with me traditional hypnotists all try to stay out of trance while they hypnotize people they do things like they started at your forehead right so that they wont go into trance like that’s a bad thing I use the other approach I just look at people and I go lets go together and then I just start altering my state and altering my state and breathing at the same rate they are and pretty soon fffffffff feeling more relaxed already aren’t you you can close your eyes its ok. it either rolls forward.when it goes from that center place how does it move from your body does it go up does it go down? It starts here and then does it move up here? Right U do it pretty good by the way I have to tell ya. got it now keep spinning it now when it spins in the opposite direction it feels different doesn’t it? No keep spinning it bc you se what we ant to do is make it so it lasts this way the more u spin a part body sensation eventually it will begin to spread throughout your body bc unlike the desire tony had to take fear and turn it into courage well u see if you have to have courage then u have to be afraid bc courage is to overcome fear when u really get over a fear it turns into curiosity so if u keep spinning this and pinning it and pinning it what’s gunna happen is is your gunna begin to wonder what its like to come up here and turn around and just talk to people its not gunna be something that makes it spin forward but in fact were gunna put a new spin on it cuz what your doing now is learning something that your all gunna do your gunna find an easy solution to what seemed difficult problem. we could go back into the ideology and find out what school teacher taught u to be afraid you were probably daydreaming in class and they they went out and they called you name and they went Reginald come up here in front of the class and show us all how to do this problem and didn’t even know what the subject was and u were nervous and you got up and she said now that u feel totally nervous turn and face the audience there by anchoring fear to the faces of lots of people and then over the years you can build up things up to the point where they become traumatic but guess what if u can learn it in an instant u can learn something new in an instant as well cuz if u keep spinning this feeling spin it fast don’t let it fade spin it even faster still there ya go now put a little tingling in with it and think of a time when you really expected something wonderful to happen.forehead and i want u to pull down you consciousness to that spinning fear and I want u to pull it out in front of you and to turn it upside down so that it spins in the opposite direction. remember the first time u saw a pair of naked breasts? it was better than you’d expected and im not talking about when u were a baby either im talking about post pubescent now if u take that feeling and keep spinning it with the other one there’s then gunna be something u wanna see in a new way bc the faster u can learn things the longer they’ll last and its not how meaningful things are its about how good they make u feel if you just take this good feeling you don’t have to then get up in front o the audience and stare at everyone’s breasts but u just take the good feeling that goes with it and double the sensation the conscious mind understands addition it knows that 2 plus 1 Is 3 but its the unconscious mind that does multiplication when u go 5x5 bang 25 comes out of no where so if u take the feeling and double it double it and spin it and take a breath in through your nose this it will help you breath in thru your nose out thru your mouth right that way u inhale differently then u exhale u have to be careful what u take in and what u put out cuz if u keep this feeling spinning then i want u to begin to talk to yourself differently all of you cuz there’s far too much internal dia=logue in this room its noisy as hell in here guys forget well i can here this stuff pretty soon u will be able to too if your quiet inside of your head you can listen to what’s goin on and you’d be surprised how much noise there is its just vibrations on the cortex and there’s no reason why vibrations don’t create vibrations some where else there always telling em these things are extra sensory and I go look at one point accessing cues where years ago I pointed out that people did something so subtle as go hmm lets see right and all of psychology had missed that where were they they were on the inside going well according to the works of sick ma fraud and he was a sick man too ill tell u i read freuds work and I never that stuff is disgusting you wnna sleep with your mother excuse me even animals know better than that not Freud though hes going that’s the . is there a time when u have a really good sense of humor? U know when that is what circumstances like u don’t crack jokes during sex right? (somebody else does) your right on the right place now All i wanted was a little wit you seem to have done that now you see you see now you see u made all these people laugh doesn’t that feel good (that feels very good yea) feels good now I want u to just hold on though that feeling that good feeling and i want u to spin that around with the other one bc what i want u to do is to have something a little different then u had before before you had something where u avoided something have u ever really craved anything? Ok good im glad that came im glad that cam to mind quickly now u know the feeling of craving something itself? now I want u to take that feeling when really craved something and where does It start? Starts from there ok right let the craving start let it build up and then let the other two feeling s that you’ve already spinning spin this way round and round and let the craving come up and just inundate yourself with a caving for this feeling. right and while your doing this Im gunna ask can u feel afraid? .. So u were lying about this fear then (I don’t know)all my clients say they waste my time they lie to me about this I come out i ask them about these thing they go o yea i had that problem two mins ago ok tell the people good bye and go sit back down. pretty easy say hello (hello friends how are you doing) he looks terrified doesn’t he? Ya know wand ya know ya know what they used to call brief therapy 10 sessions ok to me that’s ok see the same client ten times yawn I don’t think so (so u feel better right (yea i feel better) but its not good enough no anal retentive is happy with anything of course its not good enough bc since u haven’t done it for years there are things you have to learn about it you have to learn how to feel grounded for example you have to feel like that if u put one foot in front of the other a little bit turn that other foot sideways a little bit so you have a little balance keep your feet still and if u turn this way and cock your hip it makes u feel like your gunna leap on the audience I love that feeling i look at them and i go just wait just u guys wait right so you so now take the feeling and while its spinning forward let me ask u to do something just close your eyes for just a min and i want u to thin about something u really enjoy. if u create fear sand hold on to it one way if u do it the other way now im ma do something im gunna ask u to just stand up now stand up keep the feeling spinning in the new direction you don’t have to close your eyes u can open your eyes and keep the feeling spinning not this way but that way right and then begin to ask yourself ya know because if u turn around and look at this audience and you can remain at ease right does the other feeling feel better well come up here and look at the people and see if u can keep the feeling going don’t hesitate so much though ok. we could make this whole thing of life perverted or ewe can make It easy and me im the guy lookin for the easy way. little sense o humor. and a pretty big self image that wasn’t really that right he said everyone’s problems were sexuals problems yes sick man yes sick man was it that bppl called u sick man for years and years they go hey sickman how ya doin? He says well yes and i know women have sexual problems bc of penis envy and i would say that depends upon the penis and sometimes its not the penis they wanna envy sometimes they wanna chop the motherfuckers off ya know lets go at it full gamut t sick man. so let me like me ask you now when u think about doing things in the future there would b places where it would be useful bc if u can if u can speak to groups of people you can always make more money ya know u can do business meetings there’s all kinds of stuff u can do .basis of all of our problems its the repression and i said yea the basis of your problems were too much cocaine. not very honest but while they have them there they have them locked um these preachers go on tv and talk to millions of people collecting money for god i think god would be able to make his own money don’t u think hes omn ipotent he should be able to just mint his own coin y when would want these guys from America from Arkansas or Texas ya know anyway so when you take the feeling and u began to spin around the new feeling ok it felt better right? Now the truth is is with any new feeling in order to maintain it so so If u have a fear of failure right in order to do that its an activity see to me its its not that things have a psychological basis its not that there was an see if I try to find out why u have a fear of audiences ya know Is this some deep thing about your wanting to sleep with your mother or something or the queen mother ya know hahahah fascination not separation fascination not desperation i think the impressive thing about her is is the thing that I heard about an interview that somebody did one of these newspapers reporters went and talked to her at flower show or something and uh he said uh ya know its nice to see you out and about we don’t see u that much and she said well everybody says the traffic in London Is terrible she said I never see it of course the block everything of f everywhere she goes so of course threes no fucking traffic I remember one time I was teaching a seminar and huh suddenly all these uh policeman came and lined barriers up on the side of the road the blocked off all the traffic and i said what the hell is going on we couldn’t even cross the street and uh uh policeman says to me the queen mom is out and driving she’s going to drive to suffrages she’s blocking all the way from where she lives to suffrages I think that would be pretty nice i wished they’d do that for me ya know id don’t even have a car i wish they did that for me they just blocked off everywhere then i would be sure to get the first taxi along except that there wouldn’t be any its kind of like It was during that whale crisis that was the shortest oil crisis i ever saw.group sales otherwise u have to sell everything to people on e person at a time such a drag in the us they get all the potential condo buyers they lock them up in the same place and they force them to listen to the sales pitch in exchange for a vacation to las vegas which turns out ot to be a bus trip worth about 7 dollars. I the us we had an oil crisis for years ya know then suddenly when the price got high enough there was no shortage of oil funny how that works um pretty soon were don’t gunna use oil in cars though that uh some clever guy figured out how to make the ultimate battery and uh Its such a smart idea that’s simple in 20 years they had electricity going around to super conductors in texas university they found that the laws of physics dissipate at a certain temperature that whenever u have electricity in wire it dissipates some o it office heat and uh they found out that if u f=roze it and got t=down to the temperature of liquid nitrogen suddenly that law doesn’t apply anymore and this has been goi ng around infinitely so on this why are electricity has been going around and around for 20 years and the only time they use any is when they measure it cuz that always takes some how much measuring takes and so far the only electricity thieve lost is how much electricity it takes to measure it now i don’t know how they measured how much it takes to measure it but these scientists have far too much time on there hands that s all i can say well some bright guy started thinking and he went well what if we put a whole fucking lot of electricity in one of these things could we take it off i we wanted to? And uh he built a device the size o a washing machine and uh it would he put it in a power r plant and store enough electricity inside of this thing its got a casing of liquid nitrogen it stores enough electricity that If the power plant went down for three day you . its only when u use your conscious mind and begin to steer It in a direction u don’t wanna go the more you worry about fear the more fear all have u see as soon as u just start making a new feeling in the same place now heres the trippy part in terms of getting thing to generalize to other places stop and I want u think of another time when u had to do public speaking and you were afraid. And when u think about it now what happens? It doesn’t seem as bad well its don’t now that’s why now the thing is is if u start to think about places in the future that normally would have been totally out of the question for you when u think about em now how does it feel should be possible yea will be possible doses it seem like it is gunna be fun? C problem is is your still not your still don’t moving towards pleasure bc u haven’t practiced it enough you grew up in a a society especially the English Jesus ppl huh haha here hum coughs keep a stiff upper lip what for? Excuse me the w ar is over ya know now is a good time to have a stiff upper lip.could provide power to a city the size of London for three days and then somebody said g we could make really tiny ones about this big and stick em in cars you just have to be careful about getting in accidents with liquid nitrogen its nasty stuff they said we’ll put a really good case on the battery. that’s the way u r unconsciousous runs your heart to that’s a good thing. probably would have been better If u had a helmet but a stiff upper lip if u don’t have a helmet um ya know its like my grandfather said to me 10 yrs ago when i told him i was coming to London and i stopped in new jersey to see him and has not alive anymore but ya know he smoked a3 packs of cigarettes a day so ya know he died at the age of 107 all the doctors said he as a real . ya know but see ive always thought that its silly that the make cars out of heavy metal I always thought they should make them out of the same thing nerf balls are made of u guys know what a nerf ball Is one of those so=sponge footballs right no one ever gets hurt with one of those they throw It and it hits right in the head and ptt nothing ya know that’s why they give em to little kids ya know I have a dog about this big and she loves nerf balls I take her out into the park and she goes around steals children’s toys um which we figure toys are for dogs children are always gunna outgrow them and uh she likes to bury them in places and then let ppl try and find them but I was sitting there one day and there were two kids and they were throwing a box full of nerf balls they were throwing them at each other and suddenly I got the vision of ppl going down the road and nerf balls see then we could take our aggressions out all the time we just slam into ppl and it wouldn’t even be like bumper cars u would nt feel a thing they just spin around ya know and if we put the wheels so they turn in every direction they never turn over they just like swivels skates like they have on a thing in the supermarket shop shopping cart with nerf balls and one of these batteries and down the road well go ppl there wont be ppl dieing in on the highway see wasn’t really a smart idea to make one road with a white line down the middle anyway vie got what’s that gotta look to pl in outer space they probably call this the suicide planet cuz we get in big metal things and go in opposite directions then were shocked when n they hit each other big surprise u see to me im not surprised at all having talked to ppl about the intimate sides o there minds for thirty years I m afraid every time i go on the rod bc the ppl are talking to themselves making pictures thinking about things worryin about shit there not watching the fucking road if it wasn’t for the fact that unconsciously ppl do things better than they do consciously wed all be dead but uh somehow or other if uve ever been driving down the road then suddenly u realize u haven’t paid attention for ta 100 miles and uh somehow or another u drove automatically. . that’s what i was told bc i was told hypnosis only treats the symptom and I went that’s good isn’t it? and they went no that’s not good u don’t understand Richard and i said well i thought we wanted to treat the symptom and they were saying yes but if u suppress the symptom it will come out somewhere else so what happens is is u end up suppressing all of this fear it ends up coming out in erections prolonged erections=when ur having sex even with somebody else .and the more u engage in things like public speaking and all of that kind of stuff its a side effect of the whole thing i mean if u start having sex u cant stop for hours and hours ya know i have clients s call up and complain bitterly about it ya know but of course there wives call up and say can we send du an extra check and i tell u no no its payment in and of itself its nice to have ppl be happy um this English teacher in college kept telling me he said ya know if u don’t have nice handwriting and u don’t spell l well everybody will think your stupid and i said well if your not stupid then you’ll hire somebody who has good handwriting and spells well pay em a couple bucks an hour and we’ll see who the stupid one is about 6 years later I graduated from graduate school and id written uh my book I hired that teacher he didn’t remember but i did he was still working at the same college teaching the same class over and over again and i knew he was living beyond his means so i said could u use some extra money he said yea i said here hers a manuscript i want u to go thru spell all the words right and he said why don’t u have somebody type it I said well i will once u have It in nice neat .polarity responder as he was proud of saying he said I buried 3 of my doctors and he said and now there e afraid to work he said they’re afraid of being my physicians he said he said they were clean ppl they didn’t smoke cigars they’d didn’t smoke cigarettes thy didn’t drink no wonder the died young ya know i said well that’s a good philosophy. he also died in the middle of a sentence which I think is the way to die your gunna do none of this long drawn out protracted illness stuff he was at the table and he was eating stuff he had no teeth left and he ya know had a little Alzheimer’s going so he didn’t really worry about the past much couldn’t remember much about it in fact he told me not to got o London he went o no u don’t want go there the place Is bombed out i was just there and i said actually that was while ago and he said yea well the place is a mess ya know he said uh he says u wanna go somewhere nice he said ya know he said go to washing ton dc he said he said the place is really clean full o monuments and its nice i said well yea they got half the money of all the ppl in the country and squander it decorating the city not curing disease i mean cuz hat we really need is statues of dead ppl Vie never heard of i mean ya know u guys are possessed with this stature thing I gotta talk to u guys about this u guys have a statue of George Washington excuse me wasn’t he a traitor for u guys shouldn’t be a bad guy but over there is a statue of George Washington ya know remember he liberated our country when it wasn’t our country it was your country right ya know he started a big uprising he imprisoned generals uh ya know then he started swapping i love this he swapped guys like general Cornwall for one of our diplomats uh the brats had the ship and caught in American ship and it just happen to have president of the continental congress in it so u guys put him in a bloody tower right made him sit there and ya know for there and then he started playing this barter game ill give u this politician for that general ya know makes alot of sense we did that with the Russian s too like when our spies would get caught we trade me there spies back isn’t it kind of admitting things to me oh no no we don’t have any spies but we will trade u one of ours for yours that’s as good as there is no such thing as hypnosis and u better not do it. handwriting and spelled well and he said that sounds d idiotic and i said close but then see they told me the structure of magic which was not my first book but then the structure of magic was my thesis in college and they told me when I sent it to publishing companies they said nobody would find it interesting and experts in the field guys like j haley said therapists would find no use for this no one will have interest in this persons work and i said obviously u haven’t read Gregory Bateson who ended up writing the introduction to it um it was kind of coincidence bc Gregory move in across the drive way form me and at the same time i g ot the letter from j haley saying nobody would find any interest so i just walked over and gave the manuscript to Gregory and said give it a read and tell me what u think and I d always appreciated Gregory work and he got an attitude cuz i was his landlord ya know I didn’t rent the house out but I did collect the rent and everyone in a while i kicked ppl out for not writing me introductions at least he was a little worried about that and uh gregory was an Englishman he was a very famous guy over over here when was they guy who analyzed all of the Nazi films and he was the guy that developed the double bind theory of schizophrenia which is um a brilliant piece of work but uh Gregory loved the structure of magic he thought It was brilliant in fact he was the guy who told me i should go meet Milton Erickson i said whose Milton Erickson id never even heard of him and he s a hypnotist i sent some ppl down n to try and figure out what he was doin and nobody could even remember being there and i said oo that sounds good. sounds like my kinda guy .