Kent Hovind So Called Contradictions in Bible

Contradictions in the Bible?Author: Dr. Kent Hovind My friend Dave Woetzel (603-938-2695), got an email from a skeptic who posts on talkorigins.com. Here are Dave's responses. I (Kent Hovind) differ with him on a few minor points but there is much good info here. I do not think there are any poor KJV translations. Dr. Kent Hovind Supposed Contradiction # 1: Gen. 1:11 has the trees made on day 3 before man; Gen. 2:8 has the trees made on day 6 after man. Gen. 1:20 has birds made out of the water on day 5; Gen. 2:19 has birds made out of the ground (after man) on day 6. Gen. 1:24, 25 has the animals made on day 6 before man; Gen. 2:19 has the animals made on day 6 after man Explanation of supposed contradiction: Chapter 1 tells the entire story in the order it happened. Gen. 2:4-6 gives a quick summary of the first five days of creation. Gen. 2:7-25 is describing only the events that took place on day 6 in the Garden of Eden. The trees described in Genesis 2:8 are only in the Garden (the rest of the world is already full of trees from day 3). The purpose of this second creation of trees may have been to let Adam see that God did have power to create, that He was not just taking credit for the existing world. Notice that the second creation of trees was still on day 6 and was only those trees that are "pleasant to the sight and good for food." The birds created out of the ground on day 6 are only one of each "kind" so that Adam can name them and select a wife. The rest of the world is full of birds from day 5. Genesis 2:19 is describing only the animals created in the Garden, after man. The purpose of this second batch of animals being created was so that Adam could name them (Gen. 2:19) and select a wife (Gen. 2:20). Adam, not finding a suitable one (God knew he wouldn't), God made Eve (Gen. 2:21-22). There are no contradictions between these two chapters. Chapter 2 only describes in more detail the events in the Garden of Eden on day 6. If ancient man had written the Bible (as some scoffers say), he would never have made it say that the light was made before the sun! Many ancient cultures worshiped the sun as the source of life. God is light. God made the light before He made the sun so we could see that He (not the sun) is the source of life. Supposed contradiction # 2: How many chariot horses did Solomon have, 40,000 (I Kings 4:26) or 4,000 (II Chron. 9:25)? I Kings 4:26 "And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen." II Chron. 9:25 "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen;" Explanation of supposed contradiction: Read the verses carefully and you will see that there is no contradiction. They had chariot teams with ten horses and ten men per chariot in case you got a flat tire! If he had "four thousand stalls for horses and chariots" he would need fourty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots. Many modern versions of the Bible try to "fix" what they thought was a mistake and actually created an error. Supposed contradiction # 3: How many men did David kill, 700 (II Sam. 10:18) or 7,000 (I Chron 19:18)? II Sam. 10:18 "And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians," I Chron. 19:18 "But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots," Explanation of supposed contradiction: Since they had ten men per chariot both verses are fine. Supposed contradiction # 4: How many died in the plague? Numbers 25:9 "And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand." [24,000] I Cor. 10:8 "Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand." [23,000] Explanation of supposed contradiction: Obviously 1,000 died the next day! There is no contradiction. Supposed contradiction # 5: How much gold did Solomon get from Ophir, 450 talents or 420? I Kings 9:26-28 "And king Solomon made a navy of ships in Eziongeber, which is beside Eloth, on the shore of the Red sea, in the land of Edom. And Hiram sent in the navy his servants, shipmen that had knowledge of the sea, with the servants of Solomon. And they came to Ophir, and fetched from thence gold, four hundred and twenty talents, and brought it to king Solomon." 2 Chronicles 8:17-18 "Then went Solomon to Eziongeber, and to Eloth, at the sea side in the land of Edom. And Huram sent him by the hands of his servants ships, and servants that had knowledge of the sea; and they went with the servants of Solomon to Ophir, and took thence four hundred and fifty talents of gold, and brought them to king Solomon." Explanation of supposed contradiction: This is talking about two different trips! We can see from other verses that obviously many trips to Ophir were made! "For the king had at sea a navy of Tharshish with the navy of Hiram: once in three years came the navy of Tharshish, bringing gold, and silver, ivory, and apes, and peacocks." 1 Kings 10:22 "Even three thousand talents of gold, of the gold of Ophir, and seven thousand talents of refined silver, to overlay the walls of the houses withal:" 1 Chronicles 29:4 Supposed contradiction # 6: Isn't "Easter" an error in Acts 12:4? Shouldn't pascha be "passover" like every other version has? Acts 12:1-4 1Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. 2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.) 4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. The word 'Easter' is the correct word and the KJV is the only version I have seen that gets it right. Read Ex. 12 and Num. 28:16-17 and it will be clear that the Passover came before the days of unleavened bread. In fact, by translating "pascha" as "passover" in Acts 12:4 modern bibles have inserted an ERROR that displays not only their lack of knowledge of Greek in context, but even more their lack of knowledge of ENGLISH! You see, the man who INVENTS a particular word is the world's foremost authority on that word. In this case, the word "passover" was INVENTED by William Tyndale. Thus, William Tyndale knew the CORRECT definition of "passover" since he INVENTED the word "passover" in the first place. Singular to relate, William Tyndale did NOT use the word HE INVENTED - "passover" - in Acts 12:4. Why? Why did William Tyndale not use the word HE INVENTED in Acts 12:4? Because, as Dr. Thomas Holland demonstrated, the days of unleavened bread come AFTER Passover. That's ONE reason Tyndale did not employ the word HE INVENTED in Acts 12:4. The second reason, of course, is because Herod was looking forward to the pagan feast of Ishtar, from which the word "Easter" is derived, and so Tyndale, who INVENTED the word "passover" did NOT use the word "passover" in Acts 12:4 in HIS OWN TRANSLATION. In summary, had modern translators bothered to learn ENGLISH etymology, they would have discovered that the INVENTOR of the word "passover" declined to use the word HE INVENTED in this verse, because the INVENTOR of the word "passover" did not want to MISTRANSLATE the passage, as modern bibles have done. An article which appeared in The Trinitarian Bible Society Quarterly Record states: "When Tyndale applied his talents to the translation of the New Testament from Greek into English, he was not satisfied with the use of a completely foreign word, and decided to take into account the fact that the season of the passover was known generally to English people as 'easter' ... Tyndale has ester or easter fourteen times, ester-lambe eleven times, esterfest once, and paschall lambe three times. When he began his translation of the Pentateuch, he was again faced with the problem in Exodus 12:11 and twenty-one other places, and no doubt recognizing the easter in this context would be an anachronism he coined a new word, passover and used it consistently in all twenty-two places. It is, therefore, to Tyndale that our language is indebted for this meaningful and appropriate word." Some points to ponder about Easter: The Passover was at night on the 14th day of April. The seven days of unleavened bread always followed the Passover. The pagan festival of Astart or Ishtar (Easter) was always held late in April to celebrate the earth regenerating itself after winter. That is why rabbits (Playboy) and eggs, symbols of fertility are used. The feast days are never called the Passover anywhere in scripture. Peter was arrested during the days of unleavened bread after Passover. Herod wanted to kill him during his own pagan festival of Easter coming up in a few days. KJV is the only version to get it right. Supposed contradiction # 7: Did David pay 600 shekels in gold or 50 shekels in silver for the land? 2 Samuel 24:24 "And the king said unto Araunah, Nay; but I will surely buy it of thee at a price: neither will I offer burnt offerings unto the LORD my God of that which doth cost me nothing. So David bought the threshingfloor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver." 1 Chronicles 21:25 "So David gave to Ornan for the place six hundred shekels of gold by weight." There is no contradiction. 50 shekels of silver was paltry (reference Exodus 21:32) to pay for a site that was later to become the temple mount. However, it might be an appropriate figure to pay for a yoke of oxen. I Chronicles seems to indicate that the initial discussion was about the property. Ornan then offered David the oxen too. David paid 600 shekels in gold for the land and 50 shekels in silver for the oxen. Additional Information: Contradictions in the Bible? (02) Author: Dave Woetzel My friend Dave Woetzel (603-938-2695), got an email from a skeptic who posts on talkorigins.com. Here are Dave's responses. I (Kent Hovind) differ with him on a few minor points but there is much good info here. I do not think there are any poor KJV translations. - Dr. Kent Hovind ANSWERED CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE If this is the best that Zathras can do, he should go pick up a hundred year old book on higher criticism. At least those arguments against inspiration had some depth. This is too easy! Genesis 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness. Genesis 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day. So what? God is light and He will be the light of heaven long after the sun is gone (Revelation 21:23). Obviously He could have created a stream of light before He made the sun. Dr. Russell Humphrey's has suggested an intriguing explanation of the light God initiated on the first day. It is detailed in his theory of White Hole cosmology 01. Genesis 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created. Genesis 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created. Genesis 2:8-9 does not describe the creation of trees but the creation of the garden of Eden for Adam to live in. In it God planted many trees, among them the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the tree of life. Genesis 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created. Genesis 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created. Genesis 2:19 does not describe the creation of birds (which came out of the seas). Rather, God made one more of each kind of creature from the ground directly before Adam, so that he could name them. It was a second creative act, this one later in the day and only in the garden, that familiarized Adam with all of the kinds of animals he was to rule over. Genesis 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created. Deuteronomy 32:4. 23:24-25. Adam BEGAN to die that day. Moses wrote (actually collected 10 eye witness accounts and edited) Genesis and used the name for God that was revealed to him. Deuteronomy 20:16-17. If Abel had offered a bloodless sacrifice. 5:9. God DOES treat all alike. during the life of Moses. 34:14.) Baloney. 29:20. Genesis 2:17 Adam was to die the very day that he ate the forbidden fruit. makes childbirth a sin.Genesis 2:7. Hebrews 4:13 God is everywhere. 3:4-6 It is wrong to want to be able to tell good from evil.) God was pleased to give man a free will. God gave Cain a chance to come clean. Leviticus 26:7-8. Genesis 1:28 God encourages reproduction. Exodus 15:3. He treats all alike. In a physical sense. Leviticus 12:1-8 God requires purification rites following childbirth. See above. Jeremiah 16:17. He is not pleased when man uses that to rebel. God is a consuming fire. 22:14-16. There is physical death (the separation of the soul from the body) and spiritual death (the separation of the soul from God). just a couple of chapters later. 4:26. that is. He sees everything. Numbers 31:17-18. (Note: The period for purification following the birth of a daughter is twice that for a son. Those that offer improper sacrifices (like Cain) are rejected. Isaiah 34:8 God is a vengeful god. Hebrews 5:13-14 It is immature to be unable to tell good from evil. Genesis 5:5 Adam lived 930 years. Does that make her sinful? Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with his creation. 19 Man was created before animals were created. Judges 14:19. . Isaiah 42:13. Can't Zathras distinguish between being ceremonially unclean and sinning? I make my son wash his hands after playing in the sandbox. which. his sin separated him from his Creator the instant he ate the fruit. 26:25 God was already known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) much earlier than the time of Moses. Exodus 20:5. Genesis 4:4-5 God prefers Abel's offering and has no regard for Cain's. Hebrews 12:29 God is a warrior. 32:21 God is a jealous god. Joshua 10:40. Genesis 4:15. Their sin was disobedience (doing evil) not wanting to know something. In a spiritual sense. (Note: That God should be displeased is inconsistent with the concept of omniscience. 6:15. Does that make him disobedient to play there? A woman with an issue of blood was also said to be unclean. Acts 10:34. I ASK my boy if he took a cookie that I watched him snitch for the same reason. in effect. Genesis 2:4. which God consistently uses thereafter (see Ephesians 2:1 and John 8:51) Adam died immediately. 2Chronicles 19:7. Genesis 6:5-6 God was not pleased with his creation. Ezekiel 9:5-7 The Spirit of God is (sometimes) murder and killing. Genesis 2:15-17. Exodus 6:2-3 God was first known as "the Lord" (Jahveh or Jehovah) at the time of the Egyptian Bondage. Nothing is hidden from his view. he would have been rejected too. Your interpretation of Genesis 2 is totally screwed up. 12:8. Deuteronomy 4:24. Genesis 4:9 God asks Cain where his brother Able is. Romans 2:11 God shows no partiality. Proverbs 15:3. and are taken.. because he was angry. 9:7-8. If seven of *some* are taken. Jeremiah 4:8.8. 3:23. 1John 1:8-10 No one was or is righteous. kindness. Genesis 6:19-22. Zephaniah 2:2 God is angry... God's love provides a means of forgiveness in Christ for all who will avail themselves. who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? His fury is poured out like fire. 1John 4:8. James 5:16 Some men are righteous. Genesis 7:21 All creatures other than Noah and his clan were annihilated by the Flood. but reasonable. Some of Adam's descendants were giants. Exodus 32:14. Romans 3:10. Genesis 7:2-5 Seven pairs of some kinds are to be taken (and are taken) aboard the Ark. than two of *each* kind ARE taken. Some of Noah's descendants were giants. 2Samuel 24:16 God does change his mind. . 32:30-31. Deuteronomy 6:15. gentleness and self-control. Numbers 13:33 There were Nephilim after the Flood... Nahum 1:2. He alone is perfectly holy. His anger is sometimes fierce. aboard Noah's Ark. he heard my voice. . (which makes their prayers effective). He reserves wrath for. 16 God is love. 6 God is jealous and furious. Luke 1:6 Zechariah and Elizabeth were righteous. Cain walked away from his encounter with God. his enemies. 14. So what is the problem? His holiness means He must execute a just penalty for sin.. There is no contradiction. completely spotlessly righteous. Numbers 14:20. Jeremiah 23:23-24 A man cannot hide from God. God hates sin and evil and God loves goodness.. There is no contradiction here. peace. Isaiah 15:29. Smoke came from his nostrils. burning coals blazed out of it.. and rocks are thrown down by him. 17:4. Job 1:1. A contradiction would require that two of some kind NOT be taken! Genesis 7:1 Noah was righteous. faithfulness. 1Samuel 15:35.. Genesis 7:13 They enter the Ark (again?). Some giants have lived in recent history. God took on a form to speak with Cain (much like Moses at the burning bush or Abraham at his tent). Men can only become guiltless before the bar of the Almighty by being pardoned through the blood of Christ.. 7:14-16 Two of each kind are to be taken. 29:20. 1John 3:6-9 Christians become righteous (or else they are not really Christians).oft-refuted. 7:8-9. Genesis 7:7 Noah and his clan enter the Ark. The earth trembled and quaked. Numbers 23:19-20. 78:49. Consuming fire came from his mouth." Ezekiel 6:12. When men are described as "righteous. Genesis 4:16 Cain went away (or out) from the presence of the Lord.Numbers 25:3-4. Genesis 6:4 There were Nephilim (giants) before the Flood. Job 2:3 Job was righteous. Psalms 7:11. 2Samuel 22:7-8 (KJV) "I called to the Lord. His actions towards us change as WE change (much as the sun changes when I put on my shades)." it is always in a comparative way (ie Job 2:3 "there is none like him on the earth"). Galatians 5:22-23 The fruit of the Spirit of God is love. God never changes. . Zathras really stretches this time. 32:21. God fills heaven and earth. God is totally. So what? Genesis 6:6. This is at least a reasonable objection. and takes revenge on. James 1:17 God does not change his mind. ". joy. . patience." 2Corinthians 13:11. Haran. and died ALL before Abram got married. God is not the author of confusion IN THE CHURCH. 33:11. or Abram was only 75 years old after he had lived 135 years. No one has ever seen him. Genesis 11:7-9 God sows discord. 21:1-3. Luke 3:35-36 Cainan was the father of Shelah. So what? That is only reasonable. (Genesis 17:17 indicates he was ten years older than Sarah. Genesis 16:15. 6:2-3. Genesis 11:32 Terah was 205 years old when he died (making Abram 135 at the time). 9:1 God is seen. However. would have been MUCH older. 26:2. Arpachshad was the grandfather of Shelah. Genesis 11:16 Terah was 70 years old when his son Abram was born. It is also possible that it was purposefully left out of this genealogy. Hebrews 11:17 Abraham had only one son. This is not unreasonable since Abram himself bore children later than that. In Exodus. Thus. and others saw a vision of God. Genesis 11:9 At Babel. Genesis 10 is a genealogy that covers centuries. John 1:18. there are a few kings left out in Matthew 1:8. Proverbs 6:16-19 God hates anyone who sows discord. This is a decent point since it appears contradictory on the surface. Exodus 3:16. . Acts 7:4 Abram was 75 when he left Haran.Come on! It is reiterating the event with a specific dating scheme in Noah's life. Galatians 4:22 Abraham had two sons. God did not sow discord (contention). The amazing thing is that these verses resolve your confusion themselves! No one has seen God in all his glory. Genesis 12:7. 24:9-11. It includes the period before Babel when there was one language (described in chapter 11) and continues well after Babel detailing the divisions of languages that resulted from Babel. there are a lot of things that God does that He forbids man to do. 31 There were many languages before the Tower of Babel. had Lot. 1John 4:12 God is not seen. This was after Terah died.) Furthermore. There are multiple instances in the scripture where a grandson is called a son or a son in law is called a son. Terah could have been no more than 145 when he died. This is taken out of context. 1Corinthians 14:33 Paul says that God is not the author of confusion. BTW. While this would appear unusual. the Lord confused the language of the whole world. Terah could have STARTED bearing at age 70 (following the pattern of the genealogy in which the childless years are mentioned first) and Abram could have been born last when Terah was 130. God hid Moses from seeing his face. He confused the languages. Isaiah. Cainan was left out of Genesis. Genesis 11:12 Arpachshad [Arphaxad] was the father of Shelah. God takes on a form (like a burning bush to Moses or a whirlwind to Job) before conversing with man. Genesis 23:1 says Sarah died at 127. John. Amos 7:7-8. Abraham's brother got married. 20. Numbers 12:78. So Abram's brother. Genesis 25:1-2 tells us that Abraham was still bearing children with his subsequent wife several years later. Genesis 12:4. 18:1. Genesis 11:1 There was only one language before the Tower of Babel. 17:1. Exodus 33:20. 32:30. No one can see God's face and live. the designation "son" was somewhat flexible. Ishmael and Isaac. Job 42:5. Genesis 10:5.14:14. It also appears that in the Jewish tradition. 22:17 Abraham and his half sister. I am sure this is the case with Judah as well. He only promised he would never leave us. I've seen that this particular Scoffer often takes things out of context and omits valuable information in his/her postings. 20:11-12.The passage in Hebrews is being chopping off midthought to create a contradiction. All through scripture it is made clear that trials. So what? Good people can do wrong things. tribulation. but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley. to my knowledge. but instead that the LORD was with Judah. together they could not defeat the plainsmen because the latter had iron chariots. Galatians 6:15 It is of no consequence. 1Chronicles 29:11-12. Abraham was in possession of plenty of Canaan when he died. Genesis 17:15-16." Genesis 25:8. Proverbs 15:3. the laws you cite were not given till long after Abraham had died. and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain. Genesis 17:1. God went down to check out Sodom to give Abraham a chance to intercede for it.. I've "won some and lost some. This seems to be another case. He sees everything. What is this supposed to mean? Comments from Jonathan Sampson: Let's look at the verse inwhich the Scoffer claims the contradiction sits: Judges 1:19 (kjv) And the LORD was with Judah. Acts 7:2-5. I did not find in my Bible that the LORD was fighting along side Judah. I have experienced many trials in my life. God never promised that life would be easy. This is an observation that I made in reading this page. "He that received the promise offered up his only begotten son of whom it was said." While reading this page. Nothing is hidden from his view. It never saved anybody. One of the most amazingly fulfilled prophecies is the rebirth of the nation of Israel in their ancestral homeland." God had promised Isaac. Genesis 18:20-21 God decides to "go down" to see what is going on. Circumcision is an everlasting covenant. because they had chariots of iron. We learn to depend on Him. He's with me through thick and thin (Hebrews 13:5). Hebrews 11:13 Abraham died with the promise unfulfilled. not because he was unable to check it out from heaven. Leviticus 20:17. NO CONTRADICTION! Genesis 17:7. Abraham got Ishmael outside of God's will. Jeremiah 16:17. Nothing is impossible with (or for) God." but the LORD has never left me. Besides. 10-11 The covenant of circumcision is to be everlasting. persecution and other things strengthen our relationship with God. But you miss the point of the verse. victory and defeat. Sarai. . The promised was to be fulfilled in Abraham AND his seed. 35:11. Ex post facto laws. Luke 1:37 God is omnipotent. Judges 1:19 Although God was with Judah. Hebrews 4:13 God is everywhere. You are comparing the longevity of a covenant with its potency (apples and oranges). Notice the Word of God states "the LORD was with Judah. Genesis 17:8 God promises Abraham the land of Canaan as an "everlasting possession. And He never has. and to demonstrate the wickedness of the Sodomites. Deuteronomy 27:20-23 Incest is wrong.." not "the LORD was fighting along side Judah against the inhabitants of the valley. But it is of no value in taking away sin. are married and receive God's blessings. 23:24-25. . Zepho. Genesis 49:2-28 The fathers of the twelve tribes of Israel are: Reuben. Dan. Take the time to read the passage carefully and you might just answer your own question. tested). Genesis 36:15-16 Teman. Gatam. but adds Manasseh. Romans 14:21 It is good to refrain from drinking wine. Genesis 35:10 God says Jacob is to be called Jacob no longer. The point is NOT that God forbids everybody from calling him Jacob (in fact he is called Jacob just 4 verses later).to demonstrate our faith (or lack thereof) and to mature us. Kenaz. Genesis 36:11 The sons of Eliphaz were Teman. an abundance of grain and new wine.. Zepho. Judah. Gad. If your ONLY flaw was getting drunk for a couple of nights. every bottle shall be filled with wine. 1Corinthians 10:13 Paul says that God controls the extent of our temptations. Jeremiah 13:12 ". "Peirasmos" means "a solicitation to do evil. it is comparative. Omar." John 2:1-11 According to the author of John. rather the idea is that he would no longer be KNOWN as "deceiver" (Jacob) but as "God's fighter" (Israel). The point is not that there is anything wrong with eating certain meats or drinking wine. Some have postulated this change was because of the idolatry that was started in Dan. and Amalek. The problem is doing things needlessly that offend a Christian brother." become pregnant. Therefore Genesis 36 matches Chronicles perfectly. 1Chronicles 1:35-36 Teman." Deuteronomy 7:13 If they follow his commandments." It is based on our lusts or on Satanic seductions. Joseph. Jesus' first miracle was turning water to wine. There is a very different Greek used in verse 13. Once again you create a contradiction by screwing up the sentence. Timna.Genesis 19:30-38 While he is drunk. Acts 7:15-16 He was buried in the sepulchre at Shechem. Genesis 27:28 "May God give you . Levi. . and Kenaz. Zebulun. Genesis 46:2 At a later time. bought from the sons of Hamor. henceforth his name is Israel. James 1:13 God tests (tempts) no one.. Issachar. God examines us much like a master teacher. Asher. It was an official change.. God himself uses the name Jacob. Omar.. Judges 2:22 God himself says that he does test (tempt). Good people are not always perfect. Genesis 36:12 adds Amalek (born by a concubine) to the list started in verse 11.) This is not a contradiction. Zephi. A better translation of the Greek "peirazo" is "tried" (or proved. You just plain miss Gatam and Amalek in Genesis 36:16. Deuteronomy 8:2 God tempts (tests) Abraham and Moses. Genesis 50:13 Jacob was buried in a cave at Machpelah bought from Ephron the Hittite. I would say that you were pretty righteous too. Simeon. Psalms 104:5 God gives us wine to gladden the heart. and Benjamin. and give birth to his offspring. Kenaz. It is a change. The Oriental tradition of changing names was to signify a watershed in someone's life.. Note Hebrews 11:17. Genesis 22:1-12. Gatam. which eventually caused Israel to be judged and to go into bondage. Lot's two daughters "lie with him. Later in the passage (perhaps adopted as a son) Timnah is added as a duke (Genesis 36:40). Naphtali." Remember whenever "righteous" is used of man. 2Peter 2:7 Lot was "just" and "righteous. James uses it in this sense earlier in the chapter (James 1:2-3). God will bless the fruit of their wine. Revelation 7:4-8 (Leaves out the tribe of Dan. Omar. 23:24-25. God in justice judged the world. to plunder their enemies. This was particularly common in the ancient traditions when one was leaving one clan to join another nation (Joseph in Egypt. (Note Genesis 23:6-9 where the original story is told. He sees everything. Exodus 9:9-11 The people and the cattle are afflicted with boils. Hamor. or robbing a neighbor. 1John 4:8. Exodus 3:20-22. Leviticus 19:13 God prohibits stealing. 16 God is a god of love. Exodus 12:13 The Israelites have to mark their houses with blood in order for God to see which houses they occupy and "pass over" them. Sickness. Allowing for women. etc. The murrain was on the cattle and the horses (Exodus 9:3). Proverbs 15:3. It does not include the horses. Exodus 20:15. specifically from Ephron who lived among them and had the field with the sepulchre. Nothing is hidden from God. God does not say He needed the blood to SEE WHICH house was occupied by Israelites. children. God in love provides a means of salvation so that we can live in bliss with Him. Exodus 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses. 1Kings 20:15 All the Israelites. Likely he was given a Hebrew name when he joined the Israelites. But you are not a HOLY God who has been offended by sin. Numbers 10:29. blind. He can take (or command to be taken) whatever He wants. defrauding. Deuteronomy 20:13-17 God instructs the Israelites to despoil the Egyptians. Hebrews 4:13 God is everywhere. and older men would probably mean that a total of about 2. When Jacob returned to his ancestral homeland (Genesis 33:17-19) he found that children of Hamor had conquered and inhabited the region.). Exodus 12:37. then afflicted with boils. Secondly. asses. He promised that WHEN He saw the blood. we see that Abraham bought it from the sons of Hamor. Perhaps YOU do not think that this is "loving" enough for you. He is God. Exodus 9:3-6 God destroys all the cattle (including horses) belonging to the Egyptians. camels etc. and have always been distinct from the rules in society (shooting down an enemy plane is morally different from shooting my wife amidst an argument). some believing Egyptians). the Egyptians pursue Moses on horseback. Judges 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses. etc.) Machpelah is the region that became Shechem. 2Corinthians 13:11. No doubt many of them died. no doubt.000. You first premise is wrong. 14. and death are a result of sin and man's rebellion against God. .000. Again from the original story. not for himself. Jeremiah 16:17. number only 7000 at a later time. God made these laws for man. Jethro was a Midianite. anytime He wants. However. and then their firstborn cattle destroyed. suffering. Exodus 14:9 After having all their cattle destroyed. including children. I will only say "dittos" from now on] Exodus 4:11 God decides who will be dumb. verse six states that all the cattle died. Many OT figures had two names. Exodus 12:12. the rules of warfare are. he would pass by that house (including. He repurchased the field from Shechem's dad. Daniel in Babylon. 17. First. Numbers 1:45-46 The number of men of military age who take part in the Exodus is given as more than 600. 29 All the first-born of the cattle of the Egyptians are destroyed.The sepulchre was a cave.000 Israelites left Egypt. disease. deaf. [since this same objection is repeated below ad nauseum. Yet again you stop mid-sentence. that a man's foes will be those of his own household. Mark 7:10. Just because Exodus 20 does not mention angels does not mean they played no role. 32:14. You can still honor someone that you hate. Under the law of Moses. sisters. 10:19. This is not a contradiction. not even lighting a fire. and therefore could only count everybody in the city. and to decide for yourself regarding its observance. and then worshipping it. the English word hate poorly . Galatians 3:19 The law was ordained through angels by a mediator (an intermediary). Romans 15:33. Deuteronomy 5:9. Ezekiel 18:19-20 Children are not to suffer for their parent's sins. 31:15-17. brothers. However. God was not forbidding someone from whittling or doing sculpture work! He is talking about making up a god. 16 God is a god of love and peace. 17:16. then engraving it. the nation of Israel was split into two kingdoms at the time of I Kings 20. God (not society) would punish a HOUSEHOLD to the third and fourth generation for the parent's sins. would suffer this judgment. 14:26 Jesus says that he has come to divide families. Matthew 15:4. wrest it out of context. 35:1-3 No work is to be done on the Sabbath. So what? Exodus 20:1-17 God gave the law directly to Moses (without using an intermediary). and the ceremonial portions stopped being in effect at his death. that you must hate your father. Secondly. God is characterized by both. So was Ronald Reagan. It is not a contradiction. The disciples did not do work. When a NATION had become so corrupt that God was going to completely wipe it out (Isaiah 14) obviously all. 2Corinthians 13:11.) Exodus 20:4 God prohibits the making of any graven images whatsoever. It is reinforced by Jesus. Numbers 14:18. So there is no contradiction even if one ignorantly believes Christ is saying we are to dislike our parents.This is height of absurdity. First of all. Deuteronomy 24:16. he was counting ALL the children of Israel available for battle (verse 14). and even your own life to be a disciple. Isaiah 42:13 God is a man of war--he is fierce and angry. Nowhere does it say he did not use an intermediary. children. (Note that the ten commandments in stone were said to be literally etched by God's finger. Matthew 10:35-37. not man for the Sabbath (after his disciples were criticized for breaking the Sabbath). Isaiah 14:21-22 Children are to suffer for their parent's sins. 14. The commandment is permanent. Luke 18:20 Honor your father and your mother is one of the ten commandments. Numbers 25:4. wife. Mark 2:27-28 Jesus says that the Sabbath was made for man. the context is that king Ahab was besieged in Samaria (capital of the northern kingdom). Thirdly. young and old. and death is required for infractions. Colossians 2:14-16 Paul says the Sabbath commandment was temporary. Exodus 25:18 God enjoins the making of two graven images. They violated the Pharisees guidelines. Exodus 20:8-11. Exodus 20:12. Exodus 15:3. This is the change Paul references in Galatians 3:24-25. You are confusing at least three different concepts. 34:7. Christ fulfilled the law. mother. Matthew 23:9 Jesus says to call no man on earth your father. Romans 14:5. Deuteronomy 5:16. and manufacture a contradiction. Perhaps this was a result of the way households were structured and the collective way decisions were carried out. 1John 4:8. 19:19. Ezekiel 18:1-3 indicates that the SOCIETAL RULE was to be changed so that children would not die for the parent's sin. It is an attempt to change something that should not have been going on in Israeli society (Deuteronomy 24:16). Exodus 20:5. Luke 12:51-53. Read before and after in Exodus 20. Exodus 34:6. 2Thessalonians 2:11-12 God deludes people. He took them up to the edge and (with a couple of exceptions) they rebelled and decided not to go in. The context clearly indicates that these people had ample opportunity to repent." To do otherwise would have been to create an amoral robotic machinery with no will. but not him). There are two senses in which evil is used in the KJV. You once again confuse multiple issues. Therefore God fulfilled his promise in the next generation. etc. He does not lie. Love your enemies. our love for our parents (and even ourselves) should dim to nothing in comparison. God PERMITS evil spirits and evil men to do much harm. Deuteronomy 7:9-10. One involves a moral failure on the part of someone. it is not possible to make light shine without there being darkness. Jeremiah 31:34 God does not remember sin when it has been forgiven. As Exodus 34 states.captures the comparative nature of what Christ said. Joshua 24:19. Luke 6:27-29 Turn the other cheek. Even Moses did not make it in. holy and good. Exodus 34:6. God judges sin. The context makes clear. However. the consequences do not stop just because the sin is forgiven (see also II Samuel 12:13-14). but it has limits. Titus 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. that deception is involved. Many died for various reasons in the wilderness. Exodus 34:6. making them believe what is false. That does not mean he is untruthful or condones their actions.) Since when have you become concerned about context? God's patience is long. Numbers 14:30 God breaks his promise. READ the whole passage. It is God permanently sealing the fate that THEY decided upon. The other is a misfortune that befalls someone. Isaiah 45:6-7. 1Kings 22:21-23 God condones a spirit of deception. God hardened Pharoah's heart so that he COULD not repent (Exodus 10:1-2). Amos 3:6 God is responsible for evil. it is not possible for God to have created "good" without the potential for "evil. but not the first. Similarly. Please! How can Christ be more clear? He plainly is changing the law to initiate the age of grace in which we now live. an eye for an eye. however. Hosea 1:2 God instructs Hosea to "take a wife of harlotry. 1Chronicles 16:34 God is faithful. Therefore. (Note: some versions use the word persuade here. He does not lie. God causes the second to happen. in vs 11 God gives them over to a life of delusion. Titus 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. God knows everything and never forgets as way we do. Where is the contradiction? Exodus 21:23-25. yet they had chosen the lie of Satan (vs 9) over the truth of God (vs 10 and vs 12). He chooses to never again bring it up to be used against the sinner. Deuteronomy 7:9-10. Lamentations 3:8. so as to be able to condemn them. God never promised that EVERY individual that left Egypt would get to Canaan. After several miracles in which Pharoah hardened his heart. Leviticus 24:20." Hosea did not commit adultery (his wife had. Exodus 20:14 God prohibits adultery. Some have argued that God did wrong to even create the potential of evil. Deuteronomy 19:21 A life for a life. Exodus 34:6-7. even when it has been forgiven. Matthew 5:38-44. When considered next to our love for God. God made a promise to bring the nation of Israel into Canaan. This is not God lying to them or deceiving them. He does not lie. Hebrews 9:27 God remembers sin. Yet. once sins are forgiven. . Exodus 34:6-7. Deuteronomy 7:9-10. Titus 1:2 God is faithful and truthful. the wrath of the LORD was kindled against the people. Christ never indicates whether charging interest is right or wrong. and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. and the LORD smote the people with a very great plague.) It was fulfilled in Christ. It's important to state that neither of the two passages claim that ALL SICKNESS is from God. Sin was merely covered temporarily by the sacrifice of blood. Matthew 15:11. Sin starts in the mind and works out. 5 It is wrong to lend money at interest. So what? Comments from Jonathan Sampson: Let's look at the two verses more carefully: Numbers 11:33 (kjv) And while the flesh was yet between their teeth. In telling the parable of this austere lord. nor does it state that ALL SICKNESS is from Satan. Colossians 2:20-22 Jesus and Paul say that such rules don't matter?they are only human injunctions. Matthew 22:39 Love your neighbor [as much as] yourself. and Satan has also smote some people. Jeremiah speaks prophetically of this time. NO CONTRADICTION! Numbers 15:24-28 Sacrifices can. adding a lot of unnecessary man-made laws as a means of being more righteous. Psalms 15:1. . One is a heart attitude (love) and the other is the practical follow through of it (self-sacrifice). Christ was making the point that you do not get sinful inside by eating with dirty hands. Both go hand-in-hand. Numbers 11:33 God inflicts sickness. Job 2:7 (kjv) So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD. awaiting the coming perfect sacrifice that would wash away all sin. God has indeed smote some people throughout history. (Read the beginning of the chapter. Bad chief priest! So what? (He did far worse than that in seeking to kill Christ. Leviticus 19:18. 1Corinthians 10:24 Put your neighbor ahead of yourself. Paul was combating legalists and Judaizers that delighted in an ascetic lifestyle. Luke 19:23-27 It is wrong to lend money without interest. God made interest on loans illegal. Neither Jesus or Paul discuss eating fat or blood. in at least some case. Leviticus 21:10 The chief priest is not to rend his clothes. However. Any rational person would clearly understand that both of these passages are relating to specific instances by both entities. This "contradiction" is a clear and precise example of how desperate Scoffers are to make the Word of God look like anything less than Divinely-inspired material. ere it was chewed.) Leviticus 25:37. the era of the ceremonial law ended (and with it the prohibition on charging interest) after Christ. In the ceremonial law instituted in the economy of Israel. take away sin. Matthew 26:65. Mark 14:63 He does so during the trial of Jesus. It was never wiped out and required annual sacrifices as a memorial of this limitation.The second issue is the difference between the way sin was treated under the law. Matthew 25:27. Leviticus 3:17 God himself prohibits forever the eating of blood and fat. Job 2:7 Satan inflicts sickness. This difference is highlighted as Hebrews 10:3 is contrasted with Hebrews 10:17. You misunderstand Ezekiel 14 just like you did II Thessalonians 2:11. Christ changed the law and was very clear that He was initiating a change. Christ fulfilled and changed the OT law.000 died in the plague. Some guys with machine guns got purple hearts from the president. got an email from a skeptic who posts on talkorigins. Deuteronomy 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord. Numbers 30:2 God enjoins the making of vows (oaths). and to remarry is to commit adultery.Dr. there is no contradiction here. Contradictions in the Bible? (03) Author: Dave Woetzel My friend Dave Woetzel (603-938-2695). Here are Dave's responses. I do not think there are any poor KJV translations.000 died in the entire plague. You mischaracterize Matthew 19. So what? A guy with a machine gun is not allowed into the White House. Read the passages! 23. But regardless. There is no contradiction. Deuteronomy 24:1-5 A man can divorce his wife simply because she displeases him and both he and his wife can remarry.. no contradiction. . forgiven sins were merely *covered* by a blood sacrifice in anticipation of being taken away when Christ died. Ezekiel 14:9 A prophet who is deceived. A contradiction would require God letting him off.000 died in the plague. Once again. is deceived by God himself. I used to believe that God and evolution walked hand in. Matthew 19:12 Men are encouraged to consider making themselves castrates for the sake of the Kingdom of God. November 15 th "Believe The Whole Bible!" I have been an avid creationist ever since i first saw your seminar on tape over 7 years ago.com. He is very clear that He is making a change. See above. Isaiah 56:4-5 Some castrates will receive special rewards. . there is no contradiction. Regardless. Additional Information: Search our site Today is Sat.Hebrews 10:11 They never take away sin. Deuteronomy 23:1 A castrate may not enter the assembly of the Lord. Death is required. Mark 10:2-12 Divorce is wrong. Numbers 25:9 24. In the OT. saying that they arise from evil (or the Devil). I (Kent Hovind) differ with him on a few minor points but there is much good info here.000 died in ONE DAY. Death is still required. Kent Hovind ANSWERED CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE Deuteronomy 18:20-22 A false prophet is one whose words do not come true. Matthew 5:33-37 Jesus forbids doing so. 1Corinthians 10:8 23. So 1. 24..000 died later. A change is not a contradiction. Sounds like death throes to me. READ the scriptures! 1Samuel 8:2-22 Samuel informs God as to what he has heard from others. James 5:11 God is merciful. To the contrary. Secondly. wiping out all of the strongholds and destroying their cities. 1Samuel 27:8-9 They are utterly destroyed (again?). This second conquest of a weakened Debir could be performed by a small band led by Othniel. Does Zathras even try to understand the passage? Are these mistakes purposefully misunderstood or just massive incompetence? Joshua made a pass through the land with his whole army. in disobedience to God's command. 17-18 They raid Ziklag and David smites them (again?). 20 The Amalekites are utterly destroyed. He sees and hears everything. not Joshua 10:38-40. who thereby obtained the hand of Caleb's daughter. 1Samuel 9:15-17 The Lord tells Samuel that Saul has been chosen to lead the Israelites and will save them from the Philistines. It only says that after she hit him in the head (v25) he bowed. only that he was chosen to do the job. Is this supposed to be God's fault? 1Samuel 15:7-8. 1Samuel 30:1. Luke 6:36.Deuteronomy 30:11-20 It is possible to keep the law. Achsah. 1Samuel 31:4-7 Saul commits suicide and the Israelites are overrun by the Philistines. Judges starts off by saying that this event occurred AFTER Joshua died. fell down. Joshua 11:20 God shows no mercy to some. some of the cities were rebuilt by the inhabitants and needed to be reconquered. Undoubtedly there were some few who escaped or were traveling elsewhere that over the years returned and rebuilt their tribal homeland. Proverbs 15:3. Joshua 10:38-40 Joshua himself captured Debir. It does not say that he was standing when she killed him. Deuteronomy makes the point that the law is clear and plain so that we can understand and no excuse not to keep it. First of all. I Samuel 15:9 indicates they were selective about their destruction. he fails to obey God and falls himself to the Philistines. Paul's point is that no man has done that. 23:24-25. God does not say Saul will save them from the Philistines. tried to rise again and fell again. God had mercy on the Amorites for many years (Genesis 15:16) till their iniquities reached a point that God determined to wipe them out (Joshua 11). 1Samuel 15:35 The Lord is sorry that he has chosen Saul. In the first campaign they occupy a large . Hebrews 4:13 God is everywhere. Judges 5:25-27 Sisera was standing. Judges 1:11-15 It was Othniel. I Samuel 14:47-48 and subsequent chapters indicate that for a considerable time he was successful in performing this role. that is why sacrifices are an integral part of the law. Romans 3:20-23 It is not possible to keep the law. Judges 4:21 Sisera was sleeping when Jael killed him. It never says a man will be able to go through his whole life perfectly and never break a single commandment. however. exclaiming about something that I already know. Indeed. when a nation is "utterly destroyed" it does not mean that EVERY person of that nationality (some of whom might not have even been in the area at the time) was killed. However. Ultimately. So what? God delights to hear from us just like I delight to have my little boy come running up to me. Jeremiah 16:17. Firstly. The parallel passage is Joshua 15:16. The I Chronicles passage says Saul died for several things. or eight total. that all the earth may know that there is a God in Israel. 1Samuel 17:50 David killed Goliath. It says Saul asked WHOSE SON David was. Likely he had forgotten Jesse?s name (even though he had sent a couple of messages to Jesse in the earlier passage). (Note: Some translations insert the words "the brother of" before Elhanan. 1Samuel 17:55-58 Saul did not know David at the time of his encounter with Goliath and had to ask about David's identity. His dad.kingdom of many cities. (He may have been the ex-high priest in an arrangement like Caiphas and Annas at the time of Christ. 17:12 Jesse had seven sons plus David. At that time. 1Samuel 21:1-6 Ahimalech was high priest when David ate the bread. Mark 2:26 Abiathar was high priest at the time. These were times of ongoing warfare and Jesse's sons were right in the middle of it. 1Samuel 17:46 (kjv) David speaking to Goliath: This day will the LORD deliver thee into mine hand. 1Chronicles 2:13-15 He had seven total. Verses 55-58 do not say Saul did not know David. Any Sunday School kid could straighten you out on this one. 1Chronicles 10:13-14 Saul died for not inquiring of the Lord. 2Samuel 2:2-10 Saul. including a pattern of not inquiring of the Lord." Perhaps these four were sons of Goliath (seems to be implied in vs 22) and one of them was named after his dad. Simply doing as he had promised Goliath. Goliath fell face down and David had to make sure he was dead by cutting off his head. he is merely described as a priest. is not called the high priest in I Samuel 21.) 1Samuel 28:6 Saul inquired of the Lord. It is called "finishing him off. and to the wild beasts of the earth. In the second instance they are individual cities that are weak enough to be conquered by David's outlaw band. 1Samuel 16:10-11. 2Samuel 21:19 Elhanan killed Goliath. Is it any surprise that he lost one by the time the genealogies were recorded in Chronicles? 1Samuel 16:19-23 Saul knew David well before the latter's encounter with Goliath. and I will give the carcases of the host of the Philistines this day unto the fowls of the air. and take thine head from thee. and I will smite thee. 1Samuel 17:50 David killed Goliath with a slingshot. Saul is a perfect illustration of Proverbs 1:24-26. 1Samuel 17:51 David killed Goliath (again?) with a sword. He did not change his ways until it was too late and God's judgment was already at the door. was slain by an Amalekite. at his own request. These are an addition to the earliest manuscripts in an apparent attempt to rectify this inconsistency. but received no answer. Saul saw David before the battle (I Samuel 17:38). Ahimelech. ." Comments from Jonathan Sampson: David was doing as he said in 17:46. Abiathar was the high priest. 1Samuel 31:4-6 Saul killed himself by falling on his sword.) [Good reason to stick with the KJV!] Since when have you become concerned about the original manuscripts? Clearly the giant of II Samuel 21:19 is a different person since the timeframes are totally different and since the second is called "the Gittite. 1Chronicles 21:5 The census count was: Israel 1.000. Merab (the wife of Adriel according to I Samuel 18:19) more than likely had the children with Adriel.. Poor KJV translation. and later married David according to I Samuel 18:27) "brought up" (IISamuel 21:8) the boys just as the KJV says. There is no contradiction here. Perhaps you meant II Samuel 1:2-10? Here the Amalekite lied through his teeth in hopes of a reward. Again. 1Chronicles 21:22-25 He paid 600 shekels of gold. 2Samuel 21:8 (KJV) She had five sons. but Satan inspired it. However. God directed the death of Saul. although she was born by my birth mother. 1Chronicles 10:13-14 Saul was slain by God. God used the Philistines to carry out his judgment. My aunt brought up my younger sister. poor KJV translation in II Samuel 24:1. On the surface this certainly appears to be contradictory. Perhaps it would be best rendered: David bought the property.100. . But the discrepancy can be resolved if we consider what was included and excluded in each count. It could be that there were a few different numbers floating around wonder since I Chronicles 21:6 indicates that Joab purposely did a sloppy job and miscounted whole tribes since he found the king's command abominable. Ornan then offered David the oxen too. 1Kings 3:12 God made Solomon the wisest man that ever lived.000 described in I Chronicles 27:1-15 or the 12.000 and Judah 500.. 1Kings 15:5 David's only sin (ever) was in regard to another matter. It says he deliberately broke God's command (likely referencing the ten commandments) only that one time. consider that 50 shekels of silver was paltry (reference Exodus 21:32) to pay for a site that was later to become the temple mount.000 count likely did not include the 30. I Kings 15:5 does not say David sinned only once. 1Chronicles 21:1 Satan inspired the census.000 specifically attached to the capital (II Chronicles 1:14). 2Samuel 24:10-17 David sinned in taking the census. Comments from Jonathan Sampson: I disagree on the claim that this is a poor translation by the KJV.000 in Judah's standing army (II Samuel 6:1). and he also bought the oxen for an additional 50 shekels of silver. Conversely. 2Samuel 6:23 Michal was childless. 1Kings 11:1-13 Solomon loved many foreign women (against God's explicit prohibition) who turned him to other gods (for which he deserved death). God permitted it. the 470. it might be an appropriate figure to pay for a yoke of oxen. obviously. There is no contradiction to say "Saul was slain by the Philistines" since he committed suicide just as they were closing in to wipe him out. and Michal (who was in love with David according to I Samuel 18:20. I believe you erred in one of your reference. 2Samuel 24:1 The Lord inspired David to take the census. Michal and Merab (Michal's older sister) were both a part in this.000. Note that the 800. as we detailed above. yet . II Samuel 24:24 says he bought the property and the oxen for 50 shekels of silver.2Samuel 21:12 Saul was killed by the Philistines on Gilboa. 2Samuel 24:24 David paid 50 shekels of silver for the purchase of a property. I Chronicles seems to indicate that the initial discussion was about the property.000 of Israel probably did not include the standing army of 288. However.000 and Judah 470. It was Michal's sister. 2Samuel 24:9 The census count was: Israel 800.. of 18 cubits high APIECE. now one greater than Solomon is here. 1Kings 7:26 Solomon's "molten sea" held 2000 "baths" (1 bath = about 8 gallons). Comments from Dr. He had 40. The passage in I Kings specifically excludes the "chief officers" of which there were likely 300. Since they were molten. 2Chronicles 6:1. 9:25 "And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots. and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots. Once again you fail to simply read scripture." Firstly.000 stalls for horses yet only 4. and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians. 1Kings 7:15-22 The two pillars were 18 cubits high. It "received and held" up to 3000 baths (Chronicles).000 horses (or stalls for horses). The men of 700 chariots would be 7000 men." The book of Kings further indicates at the time of the destruction of the temple (II Kings 25:16) that "the height of ONE pillar was 18 cubits. Hovind: Many scoffers have cited I Kings 4:26 "And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots.. Psalms 18:11 God dwells in thick darkness. 1Kings 8:12." to show the same point. 2Chronicles 4:5 It held 3000 "baths. 119:18 "But the Syrians fled before Israel. Kings says it "contained" 2000 baths.000 stalls for the chariots." Perhaps the author added them together to come up with a combined height. This would seem to be a pretty blatant mistake to make (getting the measurement wrong by twice). Secondly." and I Chron. .300 supervisors. 2Chronicles 9:25 He had 4. perhaps they originally were formed and measured end to end (I Kings 7:46). 1Timothy 6:16 God dwells in unapproachable light. It is like having money and knowing how to invest it well. Matthew 12:42..Having wisdom and deciding to use it to make the proper decision are two totally different things. II Chronicles uses slightly different language: "he made before the house TWO pillars of thirty and five cubits high." the identical language is found in Jeremiah 52:20-21... There is no contradiction. Christ was God in the flesh and cannot be considered a mere man. perhaps keeping it convenient for the washing.. this number changed over time.600 supervisors.. 2Chronicles 2:2 He had 3. One of the perennial themes of tragic drama is the character who knows better and makes the fatal mistake anyway. 1Kings 3:12. and twelve thousand horsemen" as a contradiction. 10:23-24. 1Kings 5:16 Solomon had 3.000 horses (or stalls for horses). Let's consider the wording carefully. 4:29. 2Chronicles 3:15-17 They were 35 cubits high." See II Sam 10:18 "And the Syrians fled before Israel. Luke 11:31 Jesus says: ". Like anything else. 2Chronicles 9:22-23 God made Solomon the wisest king and the wisest man that ever lived. They had 10 men and 10 horses per chariot in case they got a "flat tire. and twelve thousand horsemen" and II Chron. The I Kings passage says that "he cast two pillars of brass.. you are contrasting "wisdom" and "greatness" (apples and oranges). formed from clay casts in the ground. Apparently they did not make a practice of filling it to the top." Both are correct. The passage in Kings takes place before the temple is built while the passage in Chronicles takes place many years later. There never has been nor will be another like him. there never was another man as wise as Solomon. The parallel passage to II Chronicles 9:25 is I Kings 10:26.. 1Kings 4:26 Solomon had 40. Zimri. Omri prevails. 2Thesalonians 2:11 God himself causes a lying spirit. takes on an important role when her son Abijam dies after reigning only 3 years. the traitor. I Chronicles 29:4 indicates that 3. 1Kings 16:28-29 Omri died. 1Kings 8:13. In the end. (They went up and down quite regularly in those days. who is supported by fully half of the population of Israel. he becomes undisputed king over all Israel in vs 23. However. Here. the other general. the queen-mother. Acts 7:48-49 God does not dwell in temples built by men. 1Kings 9:28 420 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir. Proverbs 12:22 God abhors lying lips and delights in honesty. 2Chronicles 14:2-3 He did remove them. He rules for only seven days (I Kings 16:15) before being overthrown by Omri.000 talents of gold from Ophir were stored up just to prepare for the temple construction! 1Kings 15:14 Asa did not remove the high places. built his temple as an abode for God. Some of these places are more or less bright. In chapter 15 he proceeds to cleanse Benjamin and portions of Ephraim of its idolatrous high places as well (15:8). However. and his son Ahab became king in the thirty. There were MANY trips to Ophir to get gold. But one of his generals. She adopts one of his sons Asa (I Kings 15:10) apparently as a figure-head and actually reigns herself for the first 10 years (see II Chronicles 14:2). The Chronicles passage describes his cleansing of the cities in Judah (see vs 5). the temple was more a place for man to go to commune with God than a house in which God could live on this earth. Tibni (vs 21). is encouraged by the prophet in chapter 15. Omri immediately begins to reign but faces a rival king. When his rival dies.I dwell in New Hampshire AND in the United States AND in the world. and takes over. the chapter ends like the passage in I Kings. Between the third heaven and earth is both a boundary of complete darkness so that no man would ever be able to see through it and the darkness of outer space. After this period. conspired and killed him. Zimri. his total reign was from Asa's twenty-seventh year to Asa's thirty-eighth year. Acts 7:47 Solomon. 2Chronicles 18:22. But God did visit the temple in a special way. Likely this ten-year reign of the Queen mother alongside Asa is the reason for the ten-year discrepancy in dating the Baasha event by how long Asa had ruled.eighth year of Asa's reign.) 1Kings 16:6-8 Baasha died in the 26th year of King Asa's reign. Verse 17 indicates that he did not cleanse the remainder of the land. . In Jewish tradition there was no provision for a queen. He cleans the idols out of Judah AND Benjamin (as noted above) and removes the idolatrous Maachah as queen (I Kings 15:13 and II Chronicles 15:16).) Here we have a complex plot. 1Kings 16:23 Omri became king in the thirty-first year of Asa's reign and he reigned for a total of twelve years. A good illustration of how God dwells in intense light within a protective sphere of darkness is Exodus 19:21. Exodus 20:21 and Exodus 24:15-18. God dwells in heaven in unapproachable light. Maachah. I would happily spend the rest of my life building it for Him. (Note: Thirty-one through thirty-eight equals a reign of seven or eight years. Elah had become the rightful king. 2Chronicles 16:1 Baasha built a city in the 36th year of King Asa's reign. 2Chronicles 8:18 450 talents of gold were brought back from Ophir. However. Over the years. if I knew that God would similarly visit a house that I built. begins to reign in the twenty-seventh year of Asa. Perhaps he even permitted some to reappear in Judah by the end of his reign. 1Kings 22:23. Asa wins a great battle. whom God made the wisest man ever. or roughly twelve years. while obviously plenty have died and seen God. They did not decide to up and see God. Acts 26:23 Jesus was the first to rise from the dead. He reigned for eight years and then died (at age forty). Christ is not saying that nobody had died and gone to heaven. 2Chronicles 22:1 He was 42 when he began his reign. The Chronicles passage states that he took them out of JUDAH. goes to Samaria and kills numerous other members of the royal family (II Kings 10:12-14). That would be preposterous. Supporting this idea is the confusion of names that appear for the king at this time (Jehoahaz in II Chronicles 21:17 and Azariah in 22:6). further confusing the issue. JN 11:38-44 Two dead persons are raised (by Jesus himself). Matthew 1:8 completely skips this part of the genealogy. It also appears that Azariah was a VERY common name. . 2Corinthians 12:2-4 An unnamed man. However. See I Corinthians 15:20-23. John 3:13 Only the Son of Man (Jesus) has ever ascended to heaven. Moreover. Obviously his son could not have been forty-two at that time! This could be a copying error such that forty-two was substituted for twenty-two in the original. If he did not believe Christ on earthly matters. Hebrews 11:5 Enoch was translated to heaven. 2Kings 8:25-26 Ahaziah was 22 years old when he began his reign. 2Kings 16:5 The King of Syria and the son of the King of Israel did not conquer Ahaz. II Kings describes how Jehu. No man in the flesh can see God and live (I John 4:12). Perhaps he also permitted some to crop back up by the end of his reign. The age difference would certainly fit. Your problem is with this interpretation of John. known to Paul. 2Chronicles 22:9 Ahaziah was found hiding in Samaria. 2Kings 9:27 Jehu shot Ahaziah near Ibleam. Paul is talking about the resurrection to life (having a NEW body).This identical objection has already been answered above. Matthew 9:18-25. Note also above. however. Ahaziah fled to Meggido and died there. the event in II Corinthians had not yet transpired when John was written. Furthermore. There are plenty of others that were raised which you do not cite (including by Paul himself). 2Kings 4:32-37 A dead child is raised (well before the time of Jesus). No doubt he cleaned out the region around the capitol. and put to death. 1Kings 22:42-43 Jehoshaphat did not remove the high places.) 2Kings 2:11 Elijah went up to heaven. the Ahaziah that is killed in II Chronicles 22:9 is said to be the son of Jehosophat (rather than grandson). Incidentally. They all died again. Note also below. which could be seen and verified. II Chronicles 20:33 confirms the Kings passage that he never swept the whole land clean. There is a fundamental difference. went up to heaven and came back. (They appear to come and go a lot during this time. Look at the context (vs. In support of this. brought to Jehu. how then could he believe heavenly things where no man is able to go up and verify? Those that have seen heaven in the Scriptures have seen a vision (or have been brought there in spirit alone). II Chronicles 21:20 says that Ahaziah's dad began to reign at age thirty-two. 11). Christ is the first with each who believe to follow. and in II Chronicles 21:2 we note that Jehosophat did have two sons named Azariah. after shooting Ahaziah. 2Chronicles 17:5-6 He did remove them. It is very possible that we are dealing with two different individuals. it is also possible that there were a couple of kings that reigned in quick succession here (since Ahaziah only reigned one year). Christ is chiding Nicodemus for doubting. Note in II Chronicles 21:2 that Ahaziah had two uncles named Azariah! Perhaps one of them reigned briefly. used alone. of which we have identified a few. The end of this chapter makes it clear that they did not capture Jerusalem or kill Ahaz (since the treasures were left intact).2Chronicles 28:5-6 They did conquer Ahaz. Matthew 1:8-9 It is: Joram. Joash. Ezra 3:2 Shealtiel was the father of Zerubbabel. Error in transcription of Hebrew numbers thus becomes easy. While this would appear unusual. carry hundreds up to nine hundred. Joash. I can not find your lineage reference in II Chronicles 3:11-13. than you could never be satisfied. It also appears that in the Jewish tradition. Ahaziah. preservation of numerical accuracy extremely difficult. and Amaziah between Joram and Jotham.) It is also possible that it was purposefully left out of this genealogy. . ten days. However.) It is true that this is a discrepancy in our Hebrew texts. Some have suggested that he reigned jointly with his father for ten years (but there is no evidence in the scripture for such an explanation). Romans 2:11 There is no injustice or partiality with the Lord. 2Chronicles 36:9 He reigned three months and ten days. the designation "son" was somewhat flexible. I am sure that it was not an exact ten days either. Jotham. comparing Genesis 11:12 with Luke 3:35-36 indicates that Cainan was left out. II Chronicles 3:19 does not exist. with two dots it stands for nine thousand). Jotham. For starters. Azariah. Since the passage in II Chronicles 36:10 only briefly mentions Jehoiachin. 2Chronicles 19:7. and some number of minutes. For example. This is truly pathetic! If you complain that the Kings passage is incorrect because the Chronicles passage is more precise. it is easy to think that they are the same person. II Chronicles does place Ahaziah. (None of them do. This identical objection has been answered above. while thousands are expressed by two dots over the proper unit letter (for example the letter Teht. they did according to vs 6 take over large portions of Judah. Therefore he was brother to Jehoiakim and uncle to Jehoiachin. It does not materially impact anything in the doctrine of the Faith. The letters from Koph to Tau express hundreds up to four hundred. Uzziah. Likely you are dealing with different individuals. Amaziah. Indeed. Hebrew numbers were one of the biggest challenges for scribes that copied the texts through the centuries. The II Chronicles passage details the defeat and ransacking of the region around Jerusalem. check the timeframes. 2Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) reigned three months. It was not a black and white victory. etc. Acts 10:34. Perhaps it was a copying error. Jehoiachin was son of Jehoiakim. Five certain Hebrew letters written in a different form. Hebrews used letters in the place of numerals. It is completely clear in I Chronicles 3:15 and Jeremiah 37:1. Probably it was three months. The II Kings passage says that the Syrian/Israeli confederacy besieged Jerusalem (into which Ahaz had retreated) but did not overcome it. 2CH 36:9 He was eight. stands for 9. it is talking about Jehoiakim when it mentions him as brother to Zedekiah. Romans 9:15-18 God has mercy on (and hardens the hearts of) whom he pleases. 2Chronicles 3:11-13 The lineage is: Joram. 2Chronicles 3:19 Pedaiah was the father of Zerubbabel. 2Chronicles 36:10 He was succeeded by his brother. 2Kings 24:17 Jehoiachin (Jehoaikim) was succeeded by his uncle. 2Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin (Jehoiakim) was eighteen years old when he began to reign. (Note: This discrepancy has been "corrected" in some versions. There are multiple instances in the scripture where a grandson is called a son or a son in law is called a son. 21:7-13." Psalms 145:18 God is near to all who call upon him in truth. Ezra 9 describes a massive confrontation because the Jewish young men took themselves Gentile women of the land in violation of God's law. Psalms 30:5." It can mean "forever" (infinite) or "ongoing" (comparatively perpetual). Mark 13:31. see Job 41:4 and Psalm 119:98. The ungodly are always judged. wealthy. a strength. Psalms 46:1 God is a refuge. the first statement may well be the Christian's experience. a very present help. The Hebrew word used both in Psalm 78 and the Ecclesiastes passages is "olam. 27-31. Psalms 58:10-11 The righteous shall rejoice when he sees vengeance. Micah 7:18 God's anger does not last forever. one would expect that the act of rebuilding the homeland would attract a number of single young men. but God always chastises them if they disobey. These are two different sets of circumstances. it is the object of His anger. The Psalmist here does not make a statement. The righteous flourish and obtain favor from the Lord. Jeremiah 3:12. During the second act. He does not answer. 2Peter 3:10 The earth will someday perish. 21 The lives of the wicked are cut short. This paradox was the topic of Asaph in Psalm 73. Jeremiah 17:4. In act one. Luke 18:7 says that God does hear. 3:14 The earth was established forever. unchastised by God. Matthew 24:35.) I notice that you did not cite verse two which clearly specifies that the passage was only listing the men. Proverbs 24:16-18 Do not rejoice when your enemy falls or stumbles. and it is all the heaven an unbeliever will experience. Indeed. 12:2. A wise man once said. Christians are always triumphant. Christians may not be persecuted. and powerful. At other times. but willing to forgive them when they repent. In the first passage it is wicked people. No doubt the difference is because women were counted as part of the "whole congregation. 92:12-14.) The difference here is not God. Proverbs 10:2-3. Obviously the second meaning is intended in these passages. . (He has provided for eternal punishment. Finally he understands by the end of the chapter that there are two acts to the play of life. Psalms 22:1-2 God sometimes forsakes his children. 2Timothy 3:12 The godly are persecuted and chastised but the wicked grow old. Matthew 25:46 It does last forever. He is "far off. Psalms 78:69. Psalms 55:23. Same as above. though at times he "tarries" to test our mettle. He is eternally angry at those who rebel against Him and scorn His mercy. By vs 17 he had assurance that God had heard his prayer. It is an experience that many can relate to. Ecclesiastes 1:4. He is angry with His children when they disobey. The second case is an adversary or competitor who falls into misfortune. Sometimes it seems that God does not hear us.Ezra 2:3-64 (Gives the whole congregation as 42." While that would mean twice as many men as women. Luke 21:33. Job 2:3-6. To see other usages of this word in a comparative sense. The ungodly may well prosper for a time.360 while the actual sum of the numbers is about 30. He cries out in a rhetorical question because God does not seem to be answering him. "Life as it is on this earth is all the hell a believer will experience. Hebrews 1:10-11." Psalms 10:1 God cannot be found in time of need. Note also 2:22-23 seems to list "men" synonymously. Christians rejoice to see a serial murderer get caught and bear his just punishment. Psalms 102:25-26.000. We are not to gloat. As our relationship matures and I came to understand the reasons for my dad's rules. Matthew 18:3. . Timothy 3:12. Proverbs 26:5 Answer a fool. There is an element of godly fear (reverence. How much fear of the Lord is in the wisdom of the world? Proverbs 12:2. 16:6 It is the fear of God that keeps men from evil. 4:7. 1Timothy 2:3-4. the prudent look where they are going and are crowned with knowledge. 1John 4:18 There is no fear in love. Luke 18:17 You must believe as little children do. 2Peter 3:9 [Yet] God wants all to be saved. 52 Jesus was filled with wisdom and found favor with God. Get wisdom. This is a tough balancing act and I frequently come back to these verses for wisdom when I am engaged in a debate that fits the bill. "Do not worry. Proverbs 26:4 Do not answer a fool. 1Corinthians 1:20. 2John 1:6 Those who love God keep his commandments. As a little boy. lest you stoop to his level and OTHERS see you as foolish too. so I will endeavor to answer them where the "discrepancy" is clear. Look at I Corinthians 4:10. 19:8. Proverbs 16:4 God made the wicked for the "day of evil. 1John 5:2. 2Thessalonians 2:11-12 God deceives the wicked so as to be able to condemn them.Proverbs 3:13." It is not God's desire that we stop making plans Proverbs 14:15-18 The simple believe everything and acquire folly. Don't get into a prolonged argument with a fool. James 1:5 Happy is the man who finds wisdom. rather than trying to guess what is intended here. This takes the cake for being the biggest hodge podge of unrelated assertions. I kept them out of love and respect. I feared my dad's discipline if I disobeyed and played in the street. and hardens the hearts of. 1Corinthians 1:19-25. There is also a maturing aspect that is involved in the relationship. 27 God has made the wisdom of the world foolish so as to shame the wise. lest HE get conceited and think you are unable to respond. Romans 9:15-18 God has mercy on. Mark 4:11-12 God and Jesus hide some things from some people. John 6:65 No one can come to Jesus unless it is granted by God. tormenting fear of the future). 3:18-20 Wisdom is foolishness. But it is not the fear that is discussed in I John 4:18 (a foreboding. and be justified. God will take care of you. Matthew 6:25-34 Take no thought for tomorrow. You are comparing the disfavor of men (persecution) with the favor of God (apples and oranges). Romans 8:28-30 Some are predestined to be called to God. What is the supposed contradiction here? It seems that most of these points are made elsewhere. Perfect love drives out fear. respect. Proverbs 8:13. To do so makes you foolish too. "Take no thought. and great concern about offense) along with love." Matthew 11:25. Luke 2:40. as opposed to God's wisdom. If you don't." in Matthew can be better translated. Psalm 111:10 says that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Romans 8:28 A good man obtains favor from the Lord. The Christian's relationship with God is a complex one. but don't let him off without a retort either. Proverbs 14:8 The wisdom of a prudent man is to discern his way. Hebrews 12:6 The godly will be persecuted. whom he pleases. he will think himself wise. This is an amazingly blatant attempt to mischaracterize the passages in Corinthians. Both are clearly speaking of the world's wisdom. believe in Jesus. Mark 15:45-46. Similarly Christ was alone in the tomb but was buried with the rich (wealthy gardens and sepulchers).Dr. Jeremiah 20:7." The context makes clear. 2Corinthians 9:6. Kent Hovind ANSWERED CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE Isaiah 3:13 God stands to judge. November 15 th "Believe The Whole Bible!" I have been an avid creationist ever since i first saw your seminar on tape over 7 years ago. . John 1:1-3 Jesus took part in creation. distort.com. Jeremiah 8:8 The scribes falsify the word of God. or misinterpret the scriptures has nothing whatsoever to do with their being true. Isaiah 44:24 God created heaven and earth alone. II Corinthians 9:6 uses the phrase as a . mentions burial with others. The silly notion of God deceiving people was dealt with above. got an email from a skeptic who posts on talkorigins. Luke 23:52-53. Joel 3:12 He sits to judge. Jeremiah and Micah both use it in the first sense. I used to believe that God and evolution walked hand in. Matthew 27:58-60. Ezekiel 14:9.Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God proves true. My grandfather is buried in a crowded cemetery. Micah 6:15 Some sow but won't reap anything. I do not think there are any poor KJV translations. The fact that some scribes might twist.. that deception is involved. Matthew 25:26. Jesus is God. I (Kent Hovind) differ with him on a few minor points but there is much good info here. describing how Israel had come to a place of judgment for sin (as predicted in Deuteronomy 28). There is no falsifying the word. applied in various ways under different circumstances to make a point. however. It would seem that God does both. God says the law was in vain and His preservation of it was to no avail since the people were hearing but disregarding His commandments. "Sowing and reaping" can describe a literal planting and harvesting of grains or it can be an agricultural metaphor. John 19:38-42 Jesus was buried by himself. Is he buried by himself or with others? Both.) It does not appear that your Jeremiah 8:8 reference is correct. Contradictions in the Bible? (04) Author: Dave Woetzel My friend Dave Woetzel (603-938-2695). Galatians 6:7 A man reaps what he sows. Luke 19:22 Some reap without sowing. (Note: Some versions translate deceive as "persuade. Matthew and Luke both describe a ruthless lord who was wealthy and living off the efforts of others.. Here are Dave's responses. Jeremiah 12:13 Some sow wheat but reap thorns. depending on what He chooses at the time. 2Thessalonians 2:11-12 God himself deceives people. Search our site Today is Sat. Isaiah 53:9 Usually taken to be a prophecy re: Jesus. Ezekiel 20:25-26 The law was not good. 1John 4:8. God stopped trying to change them and gave them over to their wickedness. Just a few verses down (vs 31) God reiterates his wrath at giving the firstborn to the fire. When Alexander the Great came through conquering the city of Tyre. taken to Babylon and left in prison to die. 16 God is a god of love. Jeremiah 32:18 God shows love to thousands. He took ALL of the . When God says he "gave them" in this passage. (Nebudchanezzar failed to capture or destroy Tyre. The dramatic fulfillment of the prophesied judgment was not completed in Nebuchanezzar since the inhabitants outlasted Nebuchanezzar on their Alcatraz-like island. Some have said that there is no marvel in seeing such prophecy of a city's demise come true since every ancient capitol fell prey at one time or another. Vs 4 walls and towers were to be broken Vs 4 dirt was to be scraped off the area revealing the underlying rock All the debris of the city was to be dumped in the water Vs 14 It would be a place of fishermen spreading their nets. but brings punishment for the sins of their fathers to many children.evacuating for the island fortress. The verse in Ezekiel is being terribly misinterpreted. Note the context of the passage in Jeremiah 34. his eyes are then put out. It was that he would die in peace rather than in war by the sword. Jeremiah 52:10-11 Instead. The significance of Biblical prophecy is that its proclamations are VERY specific and differ by the city. Nevertheless. Nebuchanezzar's siege and looting of the seacoast city was praised and actually rewarded by God (Ezekiel 29:18-20). Romans 7:12. 1Timothy 1:8 The law is good. Zedekaih's sons are slain before his eyes. it is used in the same sense as Psalm 81:12 and Romans 1:24.. verse 3 stipulates that multiple nations would be involved in the ultimate destruction of Tyre. It is still inhabited. The sacrifice of children was for the purpose of horrifying the people so that they would know that God is Lord. Jeremiah 34:4-5 Zedekiah was to die in peace. This same argument is answered above. Alexander took a cue from the failure of Nebuchanezzar.) It utterly astounds me that Zathrus should have the gall to cite this passage as evidence against the Bible's accuracy since Ezekiel's message against Tyre is one of the most dramatic evidences we have of fulfilled prophecy! Nebuchanezzar failed to totally subdue Tyre because the inhabitants of this seacoast city all abandoned Tyre proper to escape to a large island fortress off the coast. The fact that different people in differing circumstances reap different results for their investment into different areas is no contradiction. 14. The promise is not that he would live a wonderful life.metaphor in the area of charitable giving. Notice the specificity: Vs 3 multiple nations involved. Galatians 6:7 uses it as a metaphor in the area of good deeds.. The site would never be rebuilt. and I Corinthians 3:6 uses it as a metaphor in the area of missions. he is bound in fetters. His destruction of mainland portion of Tyre certainly fulfills verses 7-11 which apply to him. However. Ezekiel 26:15-21 God says that Tyre will be destroyed and will never be found again. the citizens tried the same trick. 2Corinthians 13:11. He was Jesus' earthly adopted father.) It clearly states nothing of the sort. since Luke's genealogy traces a separate lineage.) It appears that in the Jewish tradition.) (Note: Some versions attempt to correct this error by making the verse say that Nebuchadnezzar was the grandfather of Belshazzar. . There are multiple instances in the scripture where a grandson is called a son or a son in law is called a son. The angel came to both in turn. Luke 1:27 and 34-35 go to great pains to make clear that Joseph was NOT Jesus' biological father. Matthew 1:17 There were twenty-eight generations from David to Jesus. Luke 3:23-31 It is traced through David's son. Solomon. Luke 1:28 The angel spoke to Mary. Luke 1:26-31 It occurred before conception. Zechariah 11:12-13 Mentions "thirty pieces" and could possibly be thought to be connected with the Potter's Field prophesy referred to in Matthew. That this is untrue is obvious from the context since Luke and Matthew both clearly state that Joseph was Jesus' father. There are also many instances when ALL of the descendants are collectively called "sons" (ie Genesis 23:3-5).") Big deal. The modern city called Tyre was NOT constructed on this ancient site. Luke 3:23 Heli was Joseph's father. built a causeway out to the island. In fact the ancient plot is largely barren rock (somewhat inland from the modern construction). there is no need to have the identical number of generations. Heli was Mary's dad. Ezekiel) were bound together at that time and called "Jeremy" much as the books the Pentateuch were bound together and called the Book of Moses. He was Joseph's FATHER-in-law. However.debris from the city of Tyre (literally scraping it bare). Nebonidus was the father of Belshazzar. The angel appeared to Mary before conception and to Joseph afterwards." This genealogy traces the biological ancestry through Mary Matthew 1:16 Jacob was Joseph's father.) It does appear to reference the quote in Ezekiel. and has quite literally been used by local fishermen to lay out their nets! Daniel 5:1 (Gives the title of "king" to Belshazzar although Belshazzar was actually the "viceroy. in his dad's absence. (Note: There is no such prophesy in Jeremiah. Nathan. but actually. Luke 3:23-38 There were forty-three There are. and proceeded to destroy Tyre. Daniel 5:2 (Says that Nebuchadnezzar was the father of Belshazzar. Matthew 1:18-21 The Annunciation occurred after Mary had conceived Jesus. Lamentations. as was noted above. (Note: Some apologists assert that Luke traces the lineage through Mary. the designation "son" was somewhat flexible. That is why Luke 3:23 adds the all-important phrase "as was supposed. Matthew 1:6-7 The lineage of Jesus is traced through David's son. Possibly the three books (Jeremiah. Maybe he was referred to as king when he was acting ruler. Matthew 1:20 The angel spoke to Joseph. Matthew 27:9 Jeremiah is given as the source of the prophesy regarding the purchase of the Potter's Field. several generations left out of Matthew's genealogy. Maybe in Chaldean or Hebrew these two were the same word. Matthew 1:23 He will be called Emmanuel (or Immanuel).. Matthew 2:23 "And he went and lived in a town called Nazareth. Even if he had realized it." Matthew 3:11-14. (Note: John the Baptist..." the "son of the Most High. One of them was the Son of God.. Some may have been skeptical of His miracles." etc. The very purpose of John's baptism was to reveal Jesus to Israel. So was fulfilled what was said through the prophets: He will be called a Nazarene.. Luke 1:26-33 An angel announces to Joseph and/or Mary that the child (Jesus) will be "great. yet. The fact that Luke picks up the story some time after the birth and does not record the slaughter of the innocents or flight to Egypt is not a contradiction. he was called Jesus. 13:42 Hell is a furnace of fire (and must therefore be light). though under two is somehow spared without fleeing to Egypt. (where they stay until after Herod's death) in order to avoid the murder of their firstborn by Herod. Possibly some rumors or misinformation had reached him concerning Jesus' preaching and he sent some disciples to find out whether Jesus was indeed claiming to be the Christ or had said something to the contrary. Immanuel means "God with us. John the Baptist was not killed because he was not in the region of Bethlehem at the time. Joseph and Mary remain in the area of Jerusalem for the Presentation (about forty days) and then return to Nazareth without ever going to Egypt. Matthew 1:25 Instead. he is seldom referred to as "Jesus the Nazarene. Herod slaughters all male infants two years old and under. which uses the word "branch" (Hebrew "Netzer") out of David. embarrassed by His claims. Mark 6:4-6 Jesus says that a prophet is without honor in his own house (which certainly should not have been the case considering the Annunciation and the Baptism). John sends his disciples to ask if Jesus is the Messiah. and.. Mark 3:21 Jesus' own relatives (or friends) attempt to constrain him. In all likelihood. or from the Baptism onward. It is also unclear which members of the Lord's family thought he was out of his mind (or exactly why). Matthew 8:12.Matthew 1:20-23. The reason that there are four gospels is that they complement each other. Joseph and Mary flee to Egypt.) Luke 2:22-40 Following the birth of Jesus. 22:13. Matthew 3:13-17. . there is no contradiction here. or jealous of the crowds that followed Him.. He had a great many names.'" (This prophecy is not found in the OT and while Jesus is often referred to as "Jesus of Nazareth". 25:30 Hell is an "outer darkness" (and therefore dark). Matthew 3:12. and . However.. history is replete with examples of great figures being scorned by their own family. Jesus' cousin. Neither the passage in Matthew 3 or John 1 indicate that John was decided on the fact that Christ was the Messiah (as opposed to a great prophet). Each one fills in events and perspectives that are not detailed in the others. Regardless of the reason.. Mark 1:9-11 The baptism of Jesus is accompanied by the most extraordinary happenings." Matthew 2:13-16 Following the birth of Jesus. thinking that he might be out of his mind. Matthew 11:2-3 After the Baptism.") Possibly it references Isaiah 11:1. It is unclear if any of Christ's family was present at the baptism. John 1:31-34 John realized the true identity of Jesus (as the Messiah) either prior to the actual Baptism. the incident in Matthew occurred while John was in jail. The Greek in Matthew 2:23 is "Nazoraios. There is no slaughter of the infants.. Mark 1:10 It was Jesus who saw the Spirit descending. Later he abandoned the family business and followed the Lord full time. Deuteronomy 14:3-21 The law distinguishes between clean and unclean foods. then to the mountain top.) Jesus was an itinerant preacher who no doubt gave this message many times as He traveled about. Jesus spent forty days in the wilderness resisting temptation by the Devil. Christians are not to blow a trumpet before themselves to draw attention to their benevolence (Matthew 6). the disciples did not stay with Christ full time. then to the pinnacle of the temple. Matthew 4:1-11. However. you confuse two separate issues. Matthew 4:18-20. Mark 7:18-19 Jesus says that there is no such distinction. another deals with HOW you do the good deeds. Matthew 3:17 The heavenly voice addressed the crowd: "This is my beloved Son. Mark 1:12-13 Immediately following his Baptism. "Behold my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Both did. (Note: No such sermons are mentioned in either Mark or John and Paul seems totally unfamiliar with either the sermon on the mount or the sermon on the plain. Luke 6:17-49 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the plain. however. Luke 3:22 The voice addressed Jesus: "You are my beloved Son. Christ encourages his followers to live a good life so that their works will draw people's attention to God. Matthew 6:1-4 They should be kept secret. Jesus was at the wedding in Cana. Matthew 5:17-19. John 2:1-11 Three days after the Baptism.) Luke 5:2-11 (A different story.. Later. In Matthew 5. Matthew 3:16. This passage in John never mentions the baptism! Matthew 4:5-8 The Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle of the temple. Paul was not a Christian at the time Jesus preached. Mark 1:16-18 (One story about choosing Peter as a disciple. Mark 7:14-15. Matthew 5:1 . Luke 4:5-9 First to the mountain top. and this." Who was addressed? Obviously both. This nit-picking is meaningless to the story or the understanding of the point made. Again he followed Christ for a few days and went back to his work. Matthew 5:16 Good works should be seen.." What if the voice said. God can also blind the inhabitants so that they are in complete darkness. One passage deals with making sure you do good deeds. Again. but merely states: Satan did this. he specifically reference Christ's message and then draws a distinction where he augments it (I Corinthians 7:12).God can make a fire without light. and this. Peter met Christ initially and went back to fishing.11:47. Luke does not use chronological language to describe this event." Mark 1:11.) John 1:35-42 (Still another story. Titus 4:1-4 All foods are clean according to Paul .7:29 Jesus delivers his most noteworthy sermon while on the mount. Leviticus 10:8 . Luke 16:17 Jesus underscores the permanence of the law.) These are different events.. For some time. John 1:32 It was John who saw the Spirit descending. this is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19. Matthew 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin. The moral code still applies to point people to their need for a Savior (Galatians 3:24-25). Ephesians 4:26 Anger is not necessarily a sin You completely misquote Matthew 5:22.) dittos (Paul does not call anyone. is wrong. while angry at sin and false teaching. Mark 11:12-14 Jesus curses a fig tree when it fails to bear fruit out of season. Matthew 21:19. John 1:9-11 Shun anyone who does not hold the proper doctrine. Matthew 5:39. Matthew 5:44 Do not resist evil. Matthew 10:5 Go nowhere among the Gentiles nor enter a Samaritan town." See Above." It condemns the act of remarriage as adultery (as does Luke 16:18). Matthew 5:44 Jesus says: "Do not resist evil. 8 Jesus likens the maidens who took no oil to fools. Mark 10:11-12 DOES NOT say "divorce on any grounds is wrong. "Whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. 33. Dittos (Note that Christ never resisted authorities and. always acted in love. Matthew 5:32 Divorce. Luke 16:17 Jesus did not come to abolish the law." Matthew 6:15. Matthew 5:22 Anyone who calls another a fool is liable to Hell. Mark 7:6. 3. 16:3. Luke 10:13-15 Jesus curses the inhabitants of several cities who are not sufficiently impressed with his mighty works. Luke 11:40. Matthew 22:39 Love your enemies. 12:34. Hebrews 7:18-19 Jesus did abolish the law. Ephesians 2:13-15. 12:56 Jesus repeatedly hurls epithets at his opponents. (Note: The translation now prevalent. Matthew uses the famous "exception clause" as a justification for divorce but does not legitimize remarriage. 44. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love your enemies.) Matthew 23:17-19 Jesus twice calls the Pharisees blind fools. Love your enemies. 22:18. The ceremony ceased upon Christ's completed sacrifice. "Thou fool!") Matthew 5:22 Anger by itself is a sin. Luke 19:27 God is likened to one who destroys his enemies. 19. except on the grounds of unchastity.There are two aspects to the law: ceremonial and moral. . 4:10 Paul uses fool with regard to Christians becoming fools for Christ. Matthew 5:39. Matthew 25:2. this is the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and MT 23:17-19. It says. (Note: Again." in MT 7:26 is a dishonest attempt to alleviate the obvious inconsistency here in that the oldest Greek manuscripts use the same Greek word translated "fool" in MT 5:22 and "like a foolish man" in MT 7:26. Matthew 5:43-44. 17. Mark 10:11-12 Divorce on any grounds is wrong. See above.) 1Corinthians 1:23. 23:13-15. Matthew 11:22-24.) Matthew 5:39. 29. 3:18. Matthew 7:26 Jesus says that anyone who hears his words and does not do them is a fool. "like a foolish man. Love your enemies. Matthew 5:17-19. Dittos. 27. Matthew 5:44 Do not resist evil. (Note: Again. Mark 3:5 Jesus looks around "angrily." Certainly anger without proper justification is a sin. 13. Ephesians 2:8-9. Matthew 6:13 God might lead us into temptation and it is better avoided. While a Christian must oppose anyone that is fighting against Christianity. we are to maintain a joyful disposition. Seek and you will find. Christians are not to pass judgment of their own accord (since we all are sinners before God). not by faith. one can still be loving. Matthew 5:45. See also Matthew 7:21 and 25:40-46. Acts 2:39 Those God calls to himself will be saved. Matthew 7:21. Romans 10:13 Whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 2:6. Luke 21:33 Heaven will pass away. John 3:16. 1Peter 1:3-4 Believers will inherit eternal life in heaven. James 1:2-3 Temptation is joy." Again. The apostles message in II John 9-11 (not John 1:9-11) is certainly not motivated by hate. Matthew 6:25-34. Galatians 2:16 We are justified by faith. Hebrews 12:2 Jesus is at the right hand of God. The scripture in Luke 13 describes those that come to the judgment (note vs 25) and want to change their mind. Rather. "Do not worry. Mark 13:31. Luke 10:36-37. in heaven. Matthew 7:15-20 Instructions for judging a false prophet. we have a balance in scripture." in Matthew can be better translated. Matthew 24:35. This same objection is answered above. However. See above. The first passages are directed to believers with regard to having your prayers answered.This is inordinate stretching to try and concoct a contradiction. Luke 11:9-10 Ask and it will be given. However. When it does. Matthew 7:7-8. . Mark 13:32 The angels reside in heaven Acts 7:55. It is not wrong for Christians to pray to be delivered from trials. This is not judging people. James 2:24 We are justified by works. 7:21 God resides in heaven. Luke 13:24 Many will try to enter the Kingdom but will be unable. Titus 5:8 A man who does not provide for his family is worse than an infidel. Matthew 7:21 Not everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Matthew 6:13 Jesus' prayer implies that God might lead us into temptation. Christ desire that his disciples FIRST call on Jews (see Acts 1:8). James 1:13 God tempts no one. The second passage does not even use the word "judge. (Note: Providing for a family certainly involves taking "thought for tomorrow. It is not God's desire that we stop making plans! Matthew 7:1-2 Do not judge. we ARE to declare God's judgment. We ARE to be discerning of false doctrine that would destroy the Faith and harm people (John 7:24) and apply God's Word to them. Luke 12:22-31 Take no thought for tomorrow. God will replace it with a new heaven and a new earth and live there (Revelation 21:1). it is making people aware of the judgment God has already rendered in His Word. not by works. Acts 2:21.") "Take no thought. if God brings them our way. Romans 3:20-26. God will take care of you. likewise. This type of phrasing was customary at that time. In Matthew. John his brother. They would only be a contradiction if they said ONLY one was healed. It is not unlike a spokesperson today speaking for a head of state. Luke 8:26-36 One demoniac is healed in this incident. it certainly does not preclude it. Matthew 10:1-8 Jesus gives his disciples the power to exorcise and heal. Bartholemew. Luke 6:13-16 The above except that Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded. Thomas. The only way we can evaluate if a man is justified is by the works that result. You characterize NEITHER passage correctly. Matthew 17:14-16 (Yet) the disciples are unable to do so. Andrew his brother. Indeed that is what happened in Acts 10:30-33 with the centurion Cornelius (and the language is similar). Matthew the tax collector. Philip. We have in James an oft-misunderstood passage. Matthew 10:2. Luke 8:42 She was dying. and Judas Iscariot. It is actually a simple concept. Matthew 8:5-12 The centurion himself approaches Jesus to ask to heal his servant. Someone put it well: "Faith alone saves. Luke 7:2-10 The centurion sends elders to do the asking. does not refer to justification. but not dead. Thaddaeus (Labbaeus). Romans views justification from God's perspective (Romans 4:9). they also informed Him that she had died before he gets there (vs 49) and Christ informs them she is only in a coma (vs 52). ." Works demonstrate saving faith (James 2:18). Mark 5:2-16. Men can not see a person's heart like God can. If there were two demoniacs (Matthew).The passages in Matthew say that those who do what God wants will get into heaven. Matthew does seem to imply that the centurion comes in person. This is a ridiculous mischaracterization. Mark 1:32-34 Jesus healed many (but not all) It says He healed many with various diseases and cast out many demons. but to the degree of judgment or reward (after the eternal destiny has already been decided). but Jesus declared she was merely in a coma (vs 24). To claim that they were unable to do so because of this one instance of failure on their part is like saying Michael Jordan was unable to play basketball because he missed a key shot and lost a game.. Matthew 8:28-33 Two demoniacs are healed in the Gadarene swine incident. James? argument was against those that gave a mere intellectual assent of Christianity (just like the demons in vs 19) without ever coming to a life-changing decision. James the son of Alphaeus. The citation in Luke has nothing to do with justification.. James the son of Zebedee. Matthew 9:18 The ruler's daughter was already dead when Jesus raised her. they thought she was dead. Romans. However. and Judas the son of James is added (and Judas Iscariot remains). first and foremost that one has faith in God (Hebrews 11:6). Simon. Doing what God wants requires. While it does not say that He healed all. the language does not preclude him from speaking through an emissary. James views it from man's perspective. Matthew 8:16. Mark 3:16-19 The twelve apostles (disciples) were: Simon (Peter). There is no contradiction. The demonic had multiple personalities (Note in vs 9 "We are many!") which may have confused the situation. in Luke. then Mark and Luke are correct in saying there was one. The disciples do a great deal of healing and perform exorcism throughout the gospels and Acts. Luke 4:40 Jesus healed all that were sick. but the faith that saves is never alone. Matthew 10:28. Furthermore. and Judas. Matthew 10:2. John 7:1-10. Acts 16:31 He that believes on the Lord Jesus will be saved. Luke 12:4 Jesus says not to fear men. For a clearer example ofhow these unique requirements only applied to a specific mission trip. that passage in verse13 mentions calling on the name of the Lord. offered no resistance to his arrest and gave no defense toPilate?certainly not the actions of a fearful man. one could not imagine such a blatant mistake being among the various errors that could crop up. Mark 13:13 He that endures to the end will be saved. The order in which the names are given (next to James) in each account would also seem to indicate this. since it is not talking about what is required for salvation. 8:59. any personthat does believe and call on God.) Matthew 12:15-16. see Luke 22:35-36. escaped. Judas the son of James is included. 5-6 Peter was to be an apostle to the Jews and not go near the Gentiles. Matthew 10:10 Do not take sandals (shoes) or staves. . John 1:21 John himself says that he is not a prophet. 11:53-54 Jesus hid. like LK Thaddaeus (Labbaeus) is excluded. Matthew 11:7-15. 24:13. and more. Many of the disciples had multiple names. and suffered together! Even if these books were merely casual diaries and not holy scripture. Acts 2:21 He that calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved." He brought both. Itis discussing evidence of salvation (after-the-fact). depending on the individual's response to Christ. will be born of the Spirit(simultaneous with being saved) and will endure to the end. Luke 12:49-53 Jesus has come to bring a sword. Was Christ motivated by fear or a desire to avoid a physical confrontation before the appropriate time? John 7:6 and Matthew 26:18 indicates that Jesus was very concerned about the timing of His sacrifice.) Where is the supposed contradiction? I could see that there wouldbe one if Romans 10 said that one must confess and believe. 17:12-13 Jesus says that John the Baptist was a prophet. Matthew 10:34. It is far more likely that this is the same individual. He was to go first to the Jews and later to the Gentiles (Acts 1:8). 26 Same as Matthew and Mark except that. etc. Matthew 10:22. John 3:5 Only he that is born of water and Spirit will be saved. rather thancalling on the name of the Lord. The passage in John 16 was addressed to the disciples who believed on Him. (Fear God only. Labbaeus. It is hard to believe that either of them would forget the name or would misname one of the twelve who lived. ate slept. Mark 16:16 He that believes and is baptized will be saved. He predicted His betrayal anddeath.went secretly. fire. anddivision--not peace. Acts 15:7 He was an apostle to the Gentiles. 1John 4:7 He who loves is born of God (and presumably will be saved. 10:39. Romans 10:9 He who confesses with his mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believes in his heart that God raised him from the dead will be saved. Mark 6:8-9 Take sandals (shoes) and staves. These are two different mission excursions in which Christ was traininghis disciples for their future ministry. When that time came. and Mathias is chosen by the others to replace Judas Iscariot Both Matthew and Luke were written by a disciple. Instead. Theonly passage that is slightly different from the others is I John. indicating it issynonymous with confessing and believing. Perhaps he had three: Thaddaeus.Acts 1:13. John 16:33 Jesus says: "In me you have peace. nor is he Elijah. (Note: This puts those who are indifferent or undecided in the "for him" category in the first instance and in the "against him" category in the second instance. He does not employ parables." The context of these passages makes the answer clear if it were read. Matthew 11:25. Mark 8:12. 11/21/07 .Leftover Turkey? Turn It Into Oil! Author: Creation Science Evangelism In 1971 scientists learned how to turn sewage into oil in just twenty minutes using heat and pressure. However. after his death and ascension. Mark 4:34 Jesus addresses the crowds only in parables. . Luke 11:29 Jesus says that he will give no "sign. Acts 2:22 Jesus proceeds to give many such "signs. you are a child of God or a child of the devil. Mark 4:22 Jesus says that all things should be made known. He did many miracles to help people in need and to validate His message before those who were sincere. unlike the other Gospels. Matthew 12:39. Now. Matthew 12:30 Jesus says that those who are not with him are against him.) There is no in-between. Evolutionists suggest that oil comes from organic material. If you consider yourself indifferent or undecided towards the perfect Son of God who died for you. He explains the meaning only to his disciples. a lab in Texas shows that even the scraps from your Thanksgiving turkey is a great way to make oil in just half an hour.) The book of John does not contain all the public sermons that are in the other gospels. His statement in Matthew 12:39 is that wicked people would only get one sign?His resurrection." He says that he uses parables so that the meaning of some of his teachings will remain hidden to atleast some persons. more laboratory research continues to prove that it can be formed in much shorter amounts of time. the specifics of his life were made known to all who would listen. Mark 4:11-12 Jesus thanks God for hiding some things fromthe wise while revealing them to "babes. Rather he denies that he is THAT prophet which they were referencing. that were buried and compressed for millions of years under immense pressure.21:25 (Throughout the book of John. but you cannot hide in-between the two. Christ does not declare that all things SHOULD be made known." John 3:2. there are still some parables (John 10:6). being preached throughout many countries in theancient world. Indeed. Mark 9:40 Jesus says that those who are not against him are for him. so that they would not fully understand. John 1:1 . However. such as dinosaurs. Jesus addresses the crowds in a very straightforward manner.John does not say that he was not A prophet. Note in Mark 8:11 that the Pharisees were wrongly motivated. Christ does not perform a miracle on a whim to satisfy his enemies. and specifically so that they will not turn and be forgiven. bound for heaven or bound for hell. 20:30. but thatall things would eventually BE made known. it is black and white. Matthew 13:34. You can change from one camp to the other. then you are against Him. Search our site Today is Sat.400 years ago. or anatomical extremities. If God created man with a little toe. and that the evolution theory is last century's "leftovers.. I feel she has leapt over the deep end with her recent submission in Discover Magazine. we know that he was created �very good. in all honesty. the author comments on Darwin�s Book. we stand as the equivalent of a junkyard and a car factory. This happened just 4." For many more evidences check out our DVD on The Age of the Earth. In 1925 the Scopes Trial took flight with a list of over 150 so-called �vestigial� structures found in the human body. The idea of vestigial structures is actually a promotion of bad science. The presence of oil in the earth is just more proof that the Bible is scientifically accurate. proving a negative. now we are sure of the many functions that we were previously ignorant of. Today." These words are found not in an old Scopes Trial transcript. Fortunately. Christians know that God created us by his infinitely brilliant ability.� Unfortunately. Consider wingless beetles on windy islands. but the June 2004 Discover Magazine publication entitled.Creationists agree that oil came from organic material.� It cannot be done. �Descent of Man�. This is to say. but it was during Noah's Flood that billions of plants and animals were buried by mud and water squishing them into oil. The Bible says we are fearfully and wonderfully made. Due to the loss of information. The author moves on to explain that Darwin had �roughly a dozen� traits that he thought were . with a damaged bumper. Imagine if you will a pickup truck. compared to the first created man. by Jocelyn Selim. regardless if we understand it or not. which isn�t true. much like me asking any atheist to �prove to me God doesn�t exist. impossible to demonstrate the non-functionality of any structure in the human body. we cannot attribute a fallen creation as the initial product of a Flawless Creator. Selim is a brilliant contributor to the scientific community. it�s for a purpose. November 15 th "Solidifying My Faith!" I recently stumbled upon your 'speech' "100 Reasons Why Evolution is Stupid" and I have to tell you that I think it was not a coincidence that I did. as she has shown time and time again.. this will conclude secular studies on the function of that muscle. this list has dissipated to practically nothing. �Useless Body Parts�. I've been. If a muscle is labeled as �vestigial�. When God created man. thus promoting bad science. and we know that if God creates something. then there�s a purpose for a little toe. science has made many great leaps since 1925. Fortunately. Jocelyn Selim has made it her duty to resurrect the idea that humans are sloppily designed. Would it be logical to write Ford Motors and ask why the truck was built with a damaged bumper? Absolutely not! Similarly. In opening this article. not millions of years ago. however. these organisms are better off for the time being. It is. Another thing we must take into consideration is that we are dealing with the fallen human state. Discover Magazine Juggles With Bad-science Author: Jonathan Sampson �� our bodies are littered with parts we don�t need. � The tautological nature of this argument is scientifically unacceptable. The substance being consumed is also an important factor.000 years according to evolutionary thinking. This doesn�t comply with common sense. seeds. It�s said that Ambulocetus and Rodhocetus evolved into modern day whales via evolution and natural selection. The aforementioned traits include such things as the coccyx. it is no longer subject to natural selection. �How do you know they were useless?� To which the evolutionist will most likely respond with. "It is generally held that diet and the amount of breast-nursing a child has during infancy have a lot to do with the development of the jaw and teeth. some people actually have no problem whatsoever with their wisdom teeth. has given us a handful of supposed anatomical failures to consider. Whales are said to have lost their posterior extremities due to the lack of use in their new aquatic environment." Allford (1978) It is commonly known that poor diet and health can cause slower bone growth in children. Lets go through and touch on some of the points. thus. The publication. Only about 5 percent of the population has a healthy set of these third molars. However. Bergman and Howe cite the following quote. our diets have changed somewhat. into a slow moving line at papa�s pizza for a slice and a coke! Another thing to take into consideration is that man was considerably larger in pre-flood times. �Because they were not useful. If these legs were indeed useless or nearly useless. �Why are they no longer present?� The evolutionist may reply with. if you change the question to be. We have slowly geared away from the nuts. to be helpful. which has led to more dentition problems.� There are many factors that need to be considered when discussing the topic of wisdom teeth. Wisdom Teeth �Early humans had to chew a lot of plants to get enough calories to survive.� However. Darwin is quoted in claiming that because something is rendered useless. including many oft-repeated examples that we will address. One must ask the question. �Useless Body Parts�. Drs. . which could partly be the cause of dentition problems. as well as many that serve well-known functions.useless. There are many of us who have good functioning wisdom teeth. thus our degenerate physical makeup could not contain certain physical traits. In the book "Vestigial Organs" Are Fully Functional. �Because they are no longer present. Certainly this is in opposition of what Darwin stated in Descent of Man. Many nonfunctional extremities can be a severe hindrance on survival. Just as the author says. Lets equate this with the supposed evolution of whales. even up to 80. and fruits etc.000 years. making another row of molars helpful. they would not be subject to natural selection. natural selection would need to select against these structures. As the author stated. via evolution. The issue of dentition could also be explained via the fall of man. and also wisdom teeth in humans. On face value this idea has many serious problems. according to Darwin. This fact would seem to indicate that the problem is due to something other than evolutionary extractions. their nonexistence is explained away as being due to their lack of usefulness. This has been thoroughly discredited by many scientists including Harris in 1965 who studied ancient mans jaw as well as mummified Egyptian jaws said to date back 6. but for the sake of this topic I will refrain from going on a tangent for now. Many have claimed that the lack of space for wisdom teeth is due to a shrinking jawbone. that our ancestors (From Adam down) ate. the appendix. Only some people have impacted wisdom teeth. "Its action is to stabilise the clavicle during movements of the pectoral girdle. But. This is equivalent to me saying. and this explains the lactiferous ducts. of design economy and efficient embryological development. Men have mammary tissue that can be stimulated to produce milk. Such a statement is pointless and scientifically unsound. and a few have two. amongst many.which lies deeply . it seems that everywhere I go. Notice what the following � found on General Practice Notebook (GPN) � says regarding this muscle. This is due to both sexes having the same genetic information for these structures. a baby growing in its mother�s womb does not start out as a female. �Why do males have nipples?� Along with many other �evidences� put forth by the author. is actually predicted.the idea that physical traits are acquired. it does start out very similar to males and females. and should not be included in a list of �useless body parts�." A quick breeze through General Practice records would show that the Subclavius Muscle does indeed serve a purpose." GPN (2004) I would also like to comment on another statement found in the preceding explanation put forth by the Discover article author. Contrary to common belief. They are easily explained within the creation model. Male Nipples "Lactiferous ducts form well before testosterone causes sex differentiation in a fetus. Many animals are said to have gotten smaller through the years.The idea of a shrinking jaw offers no reasonable explanation. why would this have changed? How could this have changed? Perhaps the male is evolving the ability to suckle young. as the evolutionist says. The statement that this muscle would be useful if humans still walked on all fours. but how so in the evolution model? The evolutionist has a few options to select from.when the clavicle is fractured. but instead. however it wasn�t too commonly spoken of for a while until recently. and the nipples are merely nascent structures that will be beneficial in the future. Nipples on males are one example. then they . and mainly caused by our new soft diets. Now. Loss of subclavius function rarely produces clinical features. in that it is sexually dimorphic. The differences are only a product of designed chemical signals later on in development. Well. this does not affect creation theory. Some people have one. minimizing the need for excessive exercise. whereas it is genetics instead.� By that logic. Nipples may pose a problem for evolutionists. Its presence may provide protection to the subclavian vein . some have none. Another example would be the development of both the m�llerian duct system (female) and the wolffian duct system (male). but all are very unsupported. �My friend�s tall height would still be useful if humans climbed trees for bananas like our ancestors. This seems to indicate that it�s mainly an issue with Humans. Subclavius Muscle "This small muscle stretching under the shoulder from the first rib to the collarbone would be useful if humans still walked on all fours. and also finds its roots within discredited Lamarckian evolution . Suppose the male used to suckle the young. however today they are virtually untouched regarding problem teeth. I hear." Nipples on males were one of Darwin�s evidences for descent with modification. It is also interesting that very few animals have compacted teeth due to evolutionary drop-downs. comes with a built-in assumption that humans did indeed walk on all fours at one point or another. It acts to depress the lateral end of the clavicle and pull it slightly anteriorly. however. if they serve no purpose. he could merely reach up and grab a banana. " I feel I need to address one issue that we have seen and will continue to see in these explanations. IgM and IgG immunoglobulins.L. The knowledge of a functioning appendix has been present even since 1976." Henry L. Appendix "This narrow. It is likely that its major function peaks in this neonatal period. The appendix is in fact part of the G. (Gut Associated Lymphoid Tissue) system. Gastroenterology. Carl Wieland had this to say.A. nor are they evidence against special creation. Saunders Company. in conjunction with other parts of the body which also contain cells called Blymphocytes. Philadelphia. thus. via the phylogenic tree of life . As the previous �evidences�. which also has a rich blood supply. but shouldn�t be. then our nipples are still evolving into something that we can use. as stated in the previous possibility. 2:1134�1148 (chapter �The Appendix� by Gordon McHardy). However. This option as well offers no clue as to the evolutionary origins of male nipples. a discontinuance of evolution. and no evidence of the future ability to suckle young.from reptiles to mammals and so forth. nipples are not evidence for evolution. Issue 1 Published December 1997 It has been well known for decades now that the appendix is indeed a functional structure. current evidence tends to involve it in the immunologic mechanism. Notice how the author speaks with such certainty. 1976.B. it�s merely circular reasoning masquerading as science. Annually. It also produces some white blood cells. Bockus. M. W. which is the time when the large bowel begins to be colonized with the necessary bacteria. nor should it be used as . which fight invaders via the bloodstream.will not be subject to natural selection (as previously stated in Discover magazine) and will not be effected. however. Ken Ham and Dr. beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are littered with useless body parts. "The appendix. as if evolution is a well-known fact and that we know absolutely. Many evolutionists define �vestigial structures� as remnants left over from common descent. There�s also the idea that we (males) attained our nipples as a derivation of common ancestor. this should not be labeled �useless�. The lymphoid follicles develop in the appendix at around two weeks after birth." Creation Magazine Volume 20.T.000 Americans have an appendectomy. more than 300. something we wouldn�t expect to see in a useless vestige. These are vital in maintaining the protective barrier between the bowel and the bloodstream.. "The appendix is not generally credited with significant function. Pennslyvania.D. they attempt to use these �vestigial structures� as evidence for common descent. muscular tube attached to the large intestine served as a special area to digest cellulose when the human diet consisted more of plant matter than animal protein. This is the nature of modern arguments. involved in surface or mucosal immunity. if this is the case. Concluding this argument. Then. This argument is as fallacious as the argument from homology. manufactures several types of antibodies: IgA immunoglobulins. there�s a small fold of skin at the top of certain people�s ears that creates a point. you can live without both of your eyes. but there is a function nonetheless. With the plantaris muscle we see a structure that�s function is minimal. Surgeons harvest it for reconstructive surgery. But this still doesn�t negate the fact that it was intelligently designed. Also. we�re luxuriously made! Darwin's Point "A small folded point of skin toward the top of each ear is occasionally found in modern humans. Today. legs and so forth. It is also known that the shape of the outer ear is designed precisely to gather sound greatly. the function of this muscle is minimal. Dewar. we have many luxury cars. It may be a remnant of a larger shape that helped focus distant sounds. even �lower evolved� creatures often times do not have this trait. It has disappeared altogether in 9 percent of the population. rabbit ears. Plantaris Muscle "Often mistaken for a nerve by freshman medical students. the muscle was useful to other primates for grasping with their feet. It may once have been important for hanging and climbing. as other secular science journals (such as Scientific American) are already admitting its function. in 1957 also noted that many breeds of domestic dogs do not even show a remnant of this trait. or a bud. lips. Simply because you can live without something doesn�t mean you do not need it. Hopefully Discover Magazine will understand this." Like the Subclavius and the Plantaris.evidence for evolution. It is known to flex the knee joint as well as plantarflex the ankle joint. a cursory browsing of modern medical material would give the clear function of the Plantaris muscle. The function is so minor that the long tendon is often harvested and used elsewhere. ear damage would be much more common and even more serious than it currently is. motorcycles. As with the appendix. It is true that this muscle serves a minor function. arms. yet certainly present when the muscle is present. ears." As with the Subclavius. narrow muscle runs from the elbow to the wrist and is missing in 11 percent of modern humans. or effortlessly controlled. Other such examples of this underdeveloped structure are dog-ears. Contrary to what evidence should demonstrate. and many others. One could say. This doesn�t negate the fact that it was created in the first place. Many evolutionists consider the possibility that we had much larger ears in the past. and even roller-skates that have many things added in to make them even more enjoyable. If humans had larger ears like dogs. Palmaris Muscle "This long. Many small and minimal things add nothing to the main usability of the structure itself. The bud is merely an example of the immense variation that rests within the potential of human characteristics. This is thought to be a relic of our ancestral lineage through lower life forms up to our current state. as with previous examples of minimally functioning ." Many of you are thinking. but that doesn�t mean you don�t need them. It�s almost humorous to see what evolutionists will scrounge up to place on a pedestal as evidence for their religious paradigm. �what�s Darwin�s point?� Just as the author says. due to their ability to freely move their ears in many directions. however this would not be necessary due to our free mobility of the head. Such as the hair on top of your head that covers the spot where about 40% of heat dissipates. in 1982 supplied examples of why this would be beneficial. It�s also amazing how flexible this theory is in its evidential relationships. This is because man. goose bumps actually serve two important functions already. This is demonstrated when cumulative dust on top of a car doesn�t blow off completely when the car is traveling. Just about anything on the human body can be misconstrued to demonstrate a relationship to any creature in the world. or medical dictionary will inform you of its purpose. thus giving us a stronger grip. we have more friction in our grip on objects. This is a great retainer to keep needed heat within the body. which accentuates the ridges on your palm. Erector Pili "Bundles of smooth muscle fibers allow animals to puff up their fur for insulation or to intimidate others. which covers almost the entire body. or sweat. and male facial hair may play a role in sexual selection. So you see. R. When a person is cold the body warns them by delivering a slight shaking. sort of like an automatic thermostat. usually.muscles. which occurs when a hair is moved or bent. "The action of palmaris longus is to flex the wrist and tense the palmar aponeurosis. Harris. The boundary layer is a small and still layer just above any surface. being larger. thus creating friction. Conclusion The nature of this article clearly demonstrates the nature of �evidence� the ardent naturalist is willing to invoke in support of their religious paradigm. Humans retain this ability (goose bumps are the indicator) but have obviously lost most of the fur. which would be a great benefit especially if the insect is potentially dangerous. we know when a hair is being moved via our nervous system. If the person doesn�t fix the heat loss problem quickly. a quick cursory browse through probably any anatomy book. small muscles to small jaws. If you don�t fully understand. the hairs grasp the sweat and keep it near you. And thanks to its connection with the palmar aponeurosis. it�s also useful for cooling the body. which in return creates heat." GPN (2004) Of course the palmaris longus muscle enables us to flex our wrist. but apparently most of the hair left on the human body serves no function. Body Hair "Brows help keep sweat from the eyes." Human body hair." I couldn�t imagine using my goose bumps as a mechanism to intimidate anybody. When you perspire. Anything from body hair to goose bumps. a heavier degree of shaking will take place to create more heat. but so be it! It is actually well known that the event of goose bumps actually stimulates movement of the body. sweats more and thus requires more cooling -.even more evidence of our wonderfully designed vessels. Fine body hair also plays an important role by extending the boundary layer. Examples included the ability to tell if a small insect is crawling across your skin. . Due to the nerves at the base of the hair. The following explanation was found on the GPN. it�s all too frivolous. Other human hair plays important roles as well. Not only is body hair useful for containing heat. Notice also that man has more body hair then women. shave your head sometime and run around in the snow. This will keep your body cooled. has a functional advantage over other mammal hair in that it has a high degree of touch perception. �but that was no excuse to be fanatics about it. or even Unscientific Unamerican. helpful letter writers told us to stick to science. we published articles in every issue that endorsed the ideas of Charles Darwin and his cronies. For decades. �the unifying concept for all of biology. As we have seen this in the article published by Discover magazine. when there�s nothing further from the truth. Most scientists know full well their paychecks come because of the political system. Where were the answering articles presenting the powerful case for scientific creationism? A quick search of the record will show major scientific magazines. Giving Up? Author: Dr. It�s also interesting here that the writers never define what they mean by �Evolution�. This is a ridiculous statement. The fact that some people are very dedicated to this theory to the point of revering Charles Darwin above all others. do not publish articles that even hint a favor of creation. In retrospect. supported only by tax dollars. We resisted their advice and pretended not to be stung by the accusations that the magazine should be renamed UnScientific American.6 billion years ago. so there�s no better time to say: you were right. The magazine treats evolution as if it is a part of science. let alone that a dog came from a rock 4. it would be a waste of time on the part of the author. There�s no easy way to admit this. p.Evolutionary theory is a dying religion. �and one of the greatest scientific ideas of all time� Who cares if some people think it is the greatest scientific idea of all time. masquerading as science. True. Even if articles were submitted. Research and Grant Money is often rolled out only because of the politics of those moments. the theory of common descent through natural selection has been called the unifying c oncept for all of biology� Who cares that the theory of evolution has been called. With this statement. But there is no scientific evidence that would tell us a dog produced a non-dog. �Okay. and all of nature is turning over a new leaf. the evidences used to support this idea are silly and unconvincing. Scientific American has published some ridiculous articles belittling creation and extolling the virtues of evolution. It is a religion. 10.� The theory of evolution has also been called one of the dumbest ideas in the history of man and science. For years. this magazine�s coverage of so-called evolution has been hideously one-sided. They said we should be more balanced in our presentation of such issues as creationism. Of all the articles I have seen. Nearly all polls show the majority of America (somewhere between 55 and 60%) does not believe it is a legitimate idea. missile defense and global warming. . Kent Hovind Over the years. They pointed out that science and politics don�t mix. Only number six (microevolution) is actually scientific � the first five are religious. has nothing to do with the validity of the theory itself. and we were wrong. I would have to agree. and think there�s probably nothing scientific about it. This is explained in further detail on our website. Scientific American. Science and politics don�t mix. especially Scientific American. We Give Up�) has to be the dumbest. They need to watch my video number four where we show the six different meanings of the word �evolution�. this one (April 2005. But spring is in the air. or Scientific Unamerican. and that�s a somewhat religious idea. The editors of Scientific American need to watch our video number three (Dinosaurs and the Bible) for more about this topic. As editors. and there may be a few still alive today. Where is this �evidence� they talk about? Moreover. often in mass graves of millions of fossils. evolutionary change over time.000ft higher than where the river (Colorado River) enters the canyon? Why don�t they explain to us how rivers miraculously flowed up-hill for millions of years to finally cut the groove deep enough so they could flow downhill? It is obvious to anybody who studies Grand Canyon that it could not have been made by the Colorado River. gradual. �and their tens of thousands of peer-reviewed journal articles. if a teacher in a public university.000 years ago� There�s actually overwhelming evidence that dinosaurs have always lived with humans. There�s no such thing as a �fossil record�. Questions and Answers. This is much more evidence for a worldwide flood than for a slow. indicated the Biblical flood story is the most likely explanation for their existence. let alone that a dog can come from a rock 4. The fact that peer-reviewed journal articles support evolution is no more surprising than all soviet magazines and newspapers ten years ago supported communism. we shamefully mistreated the Intelligent Design (ID) theorists by lumping them in with creationists. These editors need to watch our videotape number four (Lies in the Textbooks) to learn the truth about Grand Canyon. Creationists believe that God designed all life. nor do they come with a tag on them when they are taken from the ground.Why were we so unwilling to suggest that dinosaurs lived 6. The editors should see our video number seven. in Pensacola. and capitalism is a better system. They only show evidence of rapid burial. named Grand Lake and Hopi Lake. �their radiocarbon dating� Radiocarbon dating was invented a hundred and twenty years after they began teaching the earth was millions of years old. They dazzled us with their fancy fossils� Fancy fossils? I don�t know any creationist who would doubt the existence of fossils. Man killed most of them. Peer-reviewed journal articles? Try to get a creationist article into a magazine like Scientific American. But ID the orists think that at unspecified times some unnamed superpowerful . We simply called them dragons.000 to see this evidence for over ten years. which over-flowed and carved Grand Canyon very fast � probably in a matter of weeks.6 billion years ago. None of the fossils found so far have shown any evidence for the evolutionary theory. why don�t they explain to us why the top of the Canyon is 4. we had no business being persuaded by mountains of evidence. for more on carbon dating. Radiocarbon dating gives wild numbers as anyone who has studied it will attest. We�ve been offering $250. We have a huge fossil collection at our Dinosaur Adventure Land. �or that a cataclysmic flood carved the Grand Canyon? As for the flood carving Grand Canyon. and see what happens. and maybe Creation is true. Mountains of evidence? No one has ever offered any evidence to demonstrate that a dog can produce a non-dog. Blame the scientists. he will be sent to academic Siberia in a heart-beat. he would be shipped off to Siberia if he survived. Ten years ago if a professor in the Soviet Union tried to submit an article to any Soviet magazine claiming that communism didn�t work. there are simply fossils in the dirt. There were two large lakes. Today. Fossils don�t speak. or a writer at any major science magazine (such as Scientific American) dares to suggest that evolution is not true. like sticking to real science. They�re too busy promoting their religion of evolution on the pages of this magazine. This would be true if they were talking about the evolution theory. Ask any number of scientists who have not kissed the sacred cow of evolution and have lost their job.S. or position at a university. . If studies suggest that the administration�s antipollution measures would actually increase the dangerous particulates that people breathe during the next two decades. it�s absolutely useless as far as science is concerned. That�s what makes ID a superior scientific theo ry: it doesn�t get bogged down in details. and not just the science that scientists say is science. They have to support the evolution theory or lose their grant money. we will end the practice of expressing our own views in this space: an editorial page is no place for opinions. say. And it will start on April Fools� Day. I can�t believe these guys think there are scientifically credible arguments for the idea that all life came from nothing. No hard evidence is ever given � certainly no empirical evidence. Slash the budget? Excellent idea! If the National Science Foundation truly dealt with science instead of defended this evolution theory with religious fervor. In that spirit. or the origin of the incredible genetic code? All they do is give fuzzy and philosophical musings on the subject. No more discussions of how policies affect science either � what if the budget for the National Science Foundation is slashed? Here�s their altar call. 18 billion years ago. U. these editors are setting themselves up as the saviors of the nation by presenting their one-sided elitist and idiotic view of evolution. senators or best-selling novelists do. space. or maybe just some of the stuff in cells. See video number 7 for much more on this. �better than. This magazine will be dedicated purely to science. or maybe just some species. that will waste tens of billions of taxpayers’� dollars and imperil national security. Details? Just exactly how does the evolutionist explain the details behind the origin of life. Get ready for a new Scientific American. fair and balanced science. If we don�t teach evolution it will waste billions of dollars and we will all be vulnerable to attack from the bad-guys. Can you believe they cut down a tree to print this page? Where�s Al Gore when you need him! Good journalism values balance above all else.� I agree that science should inform policy. The list grows every day. If the government commits blindly to building an anti-ICBM defense system that can’t work as pr omised. but evolution has nothing to do with science. Their main goal seems to be defending their dogma against the infidels. It�s the editors of Scientific American that don�t like to get bogged down with the details. So. We owe it to our readers to present everybody�s ideas equally and not to ignore or discredit theories simply because they lack scientifically credible argum ents or facts. our duty as journalists is to quote them without comme nt or contradiction. the creationists. and matter. I�d be in favor of supporting it. or the origin of sexual reproduction. grant money. or the origin of time. if politicians or specialinterest groups say thing that seem untrue or misleading. t hat�s not our concern. What are they thinking? Nor should we succumb to the easy mistake of thinking that scientists understand their fields� The truth is that many scientists have come to understand who butters their bread. Indeed. And what on earth does the evolution theory have to do with a missile defense system? There�s nothing of value in the field of science that has come because of the evolution theory. To do otherwise would be elitist and therefore wrong. No more discussions of how science should inform policy. Even if the theory were true. �you won�t hear about it from us.entity designed life. Check out the debates for yourself. �Professing themselves to be wise. and have won them easily every time.� Anyone who believes they came from a rock is a fool. I�I’ll even take on ten at a time. or any other evolutionist for that matter.Excellent day for an atheistic evolutionist to begin looking at what he really believes. . I�ve had ninety debates now. they became fools. I�d be honored to debate them in front of any university with half of my brain tied behind my back. Tell the editors. The Bible says. They may want to watch some of our previous debates before they agree to such an event. Not because I�m smarter. Call our office to schedule a time. but because I�m right and they�re wrong.