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MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com MrSex4uNYC Post Archive v2.0 from Fast Seduction 101® MrSex4uNYC Post Archive v2.0 from Fast Seduction 101® Document # 004 Made available to you via FastSeduction.com, the Center of the Seduction Universe, your "Get Laid Portal". Most recently updated on: March 29th, 2008 12:58:58 AM (EST) If you are unfamiliar with any of the terms used within this archive, you can find a thorough acronym listing on FastSeduction.com. Read the DISCLAIMER at the end of the file. By accessing this file, you are explicitly agreeing to the terms in the disclaimer. This is the MrSex4uNYC archive. There are many archives like this on Fast Seduction 101. For example, we have archives for: Style (Neil Strauss), Mystery, Juggler (Wayne Elise), TylerDurden, BradP, Ross Jeffries, jlaix (Jeffy), TwentySix (aka Extramask), Zan, David Shade, TokyoPUA, Badboy, Formhandle, ijjjji, GoneSavage, Razorjack, Svengali, toecutter, Jimbo, PlayboyLA, Jetman (aka John C. 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The site is fully free to access an contains the largest knowledgebase and features on the subject of meeting women, pickup and seduction. -2- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Teaching women how to orgasm / Post 181 Re: Teaching women how to orgasm / Post 181 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (181) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Teaching women how to orgasm // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >its not a good opener because is evokes SEX right away. (yes I know you >were joking but I thought about it and it DOES evoke more curiousity than >"Can I buy you a beer?" yes... I was joking :) however, my style is digital sometimes, 1 or 0, on or off, 0mph or 60mph. If I determine BEFORE the question "what do you do for a living" comes up that the chick is either a PRUDE that is not going to fuck without a prolonged process of bullshit or a NYMPHO that is already interested in fucking... I WILL TRY THIS LINE OUT :) The reasoning behind it is there are only two ways to respond to it. She wants me to teach her how to orgasm or she DOESN’T! If I think she is a prude (read: a waste of my time except as a pivot) and I am not looking for another pivot (read: she is expendable) I will drop this line on her to CUT TO THE CHASE! She will either get interested or get mad and leave... fuck her. Wasting field-time talking to a chick that isn’t going to fuck is DOWNTIME as far as I’m concerned. I count that as time BETWEEN real chicks! OTOH if it is some sex-chick and I think she’s ready to go, I will drop this line on her and if she really is interested, I should get a response like "what do you teach" or "will you teach me?". Also, if she balks at it / looks disgusted, I know she is a tease and she falls in the DOWNTIME category immediately... bye bye! This is all theory however, since I have NOT used this line yet :) Middle of the road chicks, you are right, I would never use this because it tips the balance of the facade I out up in order to get close to them. Bad move. >MrSex4uNYC wrote in message <199***5@ng***.com [ safemail ] >... >>>How would you teach a woman, who never orgasmed, to orgasm? Anyone here >have >>>success with that? >> >>Fuck that! >> >>However... >> >>That’s a really good answer to: >> >>"So, what do you do for a living?" -3- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Teaching women how to orgasm / Post 181 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. -4- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 182 Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 182 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (182) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: who is BLACK here? // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I find that black culture has this PRIMITIVE way of getting girls where the >guy will just bring up sex right away. Lip licking drooling I want you >looks to complete strangers. THAT’S what I was talking about. Sex is an OVERT item in black culture and not so much in white culture. Its like theres less thinking, more control >from primal urges. Hey, dont get me wrong I have primal urges, but I us >logic first. PRIMAL doesnt come out until after Ive seduced them >romantically, intellectually. In bed ... THEN BAM! No more reason and >logic ... just UGGG UGG UGGG. One thing though... economics play into this also. I have hung out with poor black chicks and poor white chicks. They are just as easy because they can not AFFORD to do anything... ANYTHING! Taking these chicks to the local carnival is enough to fuck them... hell... buying them alcohol and food is enough to fuck them :) The poorer the chick is, the fewer options she is going to have to have a good time and SEX is FREE and lots of fun! It just so happens that a lot of the black chicks you see in clubs are ALSO poverty-stricken or if they are not now, they grew up that way (unless of course you life in a suburb where everyone is middle-class) so don’t discount economics in this discussion white or black. >Then again, I dont have the built bod to just use PRIMAL alone. I do have the bod. Girls that are into bodies come to me sometimes and make suggestions on how we can get together. It is only one category though. I think MOST chicks are into faces, confidence, ability and personality. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. -5- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 183 Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 183 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (183) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: who is BLACK here? // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >oh yeah I wasnt thinking of the half black girl. Naw she is all white >canadian in nature. that’s what I meant about do not relate to her as a "black". You can tell by the carefree look on her face that she is not affected by certain issues that black females deal with which adds to their fucked up natures. >all her friends are white. I think blacks dont really >treat her as a black anyway ... my point again :) >in fact, when I heard her speak polish that >was really neat. OMG! POLISH??? you should have said so before. Neg her TO DEATH with Polish Jokes! I am not kidding... even if she is not half polish, latch onto that shit and jerk her around about her family scrweing in light bulbs n stuff. She’ll be laughing as much as getting negged :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. -6- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 184 Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 184 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (184) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: who is BLACK here? // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >well, there is NIN (Nine Inch Nails) with the famous "I wanna fuck you like >an animal" ditty. Thats white :) yes... ok. so now... ALL you have to do is find a chick that likes NIN and play the record for her. That would be a good experiment. See if the record makes her horny or what? as far as this thread, I was really only talking about airplay. white radio music vs black radio music is blatantly different in sexual terms. You can find white music that goes from overtly sexual to demonic to skinhead... but you won’t find it on the radio or in mainstream American society. That’s my main point. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. -7- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 185 Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 185 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (185) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: who is BLACK here? // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >How about Nine Inch Nails? > >"I wanna fuck you like an animal...I wanna feel you from >the inside..." > >A damn good example but probably the only exception to the >rule. hahaha isn’t it funny how TWO people come up with the EXACT SAME record as an exception? Why is that? Because in searching your mental databases of white music lyrics... THAT’S IT! I bet I can pick up ANY R&B record off the shelf WITHOUT LOOKING and find sex all over it... THAT’s what I’m talking about. Also see my response to Mystery’s post about the EXACT SAME lyrics :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. -8- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Here’s To My Wingman! / Post 186 Re: Here’s To My Wingman! / Post 186 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (186) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Here’s To My Wingman! // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >So, come on you guys, what are the duties of a Wingman? How does he execute >them? Remember you’ll probably have to work as a Wingman some of the time, >what will you do? Unfortunately, the most efficient use of a wing is as complicated as getting the chicks themselves. What you should tell a new guy is just come out with me to the bar and hang out. See what he does. Pay attention to what he is comfortable with and find his forte so you can use it to your advantage. See how he reacts in situations, then make a style that fits the two of you. I normally work with just one other guy at a time. That’s just how it usually ends up when I decide to hang out places... then I adjust depending on his style. I have one that is completely gregarious. I mean this guy will compliment EVERY chick that he likes that walks down the street in a charming "I am trying to get a date with you" obvious manner that USUALLY gets the girls smiling. He is always well groomed and looks like money, so they are willing to at least show that they were flattered/charmed by his attention :) When I’m with him, I am the wing... I just hang out and smile at the chicks and don’t say SHIT! because he has the whole game wrapped up. We stay in one spot and the traffic comes to us and we collect chicks. My job is to offer the women an alternative look to my wing and to continue the friendly vibe. I have another wing that is an Alpha Male, but his conversation is totally cro-mag! I mean deep bensonhurst Italian all the way :) He looks great, but if I let him loose on the chicks, he’ll scare them off or get us some chicks to leave with immediately :) there’s nothing wrong with that, but when I go out to meet that’s the main thing... we can fuck the chicks anytime we want. With him, I sit and decide which ones we want, then I approach them and give the pitch about my friend and I blah blah blah. They come over to meet him, and we get on from there. I have another one that plays good cop to my bad cop. Anything he wants to say that is raunchy, he attributes to me. Anything that is a sappy compliment, I attribute to him. The chicks have to pick a side, then the "winner" keeps talking to them while the other hits another group of chicks and waits to start over. The point is that if I tried to mix styles it would be all fucked up. I had to watch the style of my wing and adapt what I do to him. Let him be natural and therefore most powerful for him, and play off of his strengths. -9- MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Here’s To My Wingman! / Post 186 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 10 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 187 Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 187 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (187) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: who is BLACK here? // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >V good question. I had to think for a while: >+Zappa (he actually got put on trial in UK for obscenity) >+ Beatles (Why don’t we do it in the road/ Hi. Hi. Hi) >+ AC/DC (Get Balls or some such) >+ a lot more ’metal’ music I am not familiar with the actual LYRICS to these, but most of them, I assure you are covered up. Not blatant references like "let me lick you up and down, ’till you say stop". Instead you hear lady space you get a real blast countdown is coming on take a rocket ride baby wants it fast baby wants a blast she wants a rocket ride she wants a rocket ride baby’s on her knees baby wants to please she wants a rocket ride or you can’t believe your eyes what you heard weren’t lies my love is too much to hold too much to hold my love is larger than life yes those are sexual REFERENCES. that is all over Def Leppard and everything else... except winger BUT ANYWAY I think you see my point :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 11 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 188 Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 188 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (188) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I have a good wingman, but that’s just not his style. Well >we’ve tried it but did’nt have much opportunity. Our only >attempt was rather conclusive though: the one chick was laughing >off her ass and kissed us both on the lips. Within 15 min. We >did’nt bother much more since she was with friends and leaving >the city the next day. OK. let me get this straight... You AND your wing KISSED the same chick within 15 MINUTES... ON THE LIPS! And you didn’t try to isolate this chick and fuck her? Are you aware that most guys out there cannot get ONE chick to kiss ONE of them on the lips... like EVER? I personally don’t team up on chicks, so this situation would not happen to me. If she kissed my wing first, I am not going to kiss her that night... unless we switch chicks deliberately. If she kisses me, I’m going for the kill immediately. There will be no op for my wing to kiss her because I’m going to be in the bathroom feeling her up. However, if you and your wing like to share, you should have gotten her excited about getting fucked by two guys at the same time and gone for it :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 12 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 189 Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 189 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (189) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com ><-------Imposing oneself on women who have resistance that strong is good >for your technique, for sure, but it is bad technique. Do you apply for >jobs that have 5 or 500 other applicants? The quality of the job is >rarely related to the number of applicants, surprisingly. Some of the >toughest jobs to get are the $6.50-an-hour fast-food jobs! also, strangely enough... the best looking women are the least approached. guys are so busy shooting themselves down that the fine ones end up choosing from a select few applicants. that fact plus knowing what to talk about with them puts you in really good standing with them. OTOH the chicks that you feel are IN YOUR LEAGUE... are also in EVERYBODY ELSE’s league :) There is so much competition for these chicks that they are the ones with even worse attitudes than the HBs because they get so many numbers from guys every day... their options are limitless :) I was in the elevator in my health club the other day and these chicks were discussing guys that they met together "sarging" the other night. they were duscussing how they had guys’ numbers but they weren’t going to call them, and some other guy called and left messages, but she wasn’t going to return them because she wasn’t really that interested anyway... I started laughing and they ended up talking with me about the pros and cons of being on the dating scene :) one response was "hey, I’m not so bad... usually that’s what happens to me... I give my number then they don’t call" these were like 7 - 7.5s they play the game so often and get so many numbers that they don’t even care... they are getting more the next night and the next weekend :) >Point is, >these women with shields are hiding a lot. You may not want them in your >lives long-term, and I can tell you most of the time these women aren’t >very smart sexually. that’s true. I would much rather meet a woman that is secure with herself and seems to be honest and willing to listen to what someone has to say before "rejecting" them than some hot chick with a bitch-shield. I find it good practice and sexually rewarding to break the shields, but now you have a head case on your hands. Also, those shields normally come from experience, like guys cheating on them and getting other chicks pregnant... UH OH! Your man doesn’t use protection with YOU or any other chicks! AIDS! >Problem: nobody wants to do it with me!!! I’m not kidding. >I have a good wingman, but that’s just not his style. Well >we’ve tried it but did’nt have much opportunity. Our only >attempt was rather conclusive though: the one chick was laughing >off her ass and kissed us both on the lips. Within 15 min. We - 13 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 189 >did’nt bother much more since she was with friends and leaving >the city the next day. > ><--------If she kisses you within 15 minutes, you think she hasn’t done >that with other men? I want a woman that NO man can get physical with >quickly, and such women exist. They are the ones you write off as >unseduceable, and the ones I tend to seduce relatively quickly once they >have shown interest. That is soooooo true! The good ones are the ones that hold out. The good ones don’t fuck you an hour after you first kissed them when they were drunk in a club :) The good ones ONLY get close to someone that demonstrates personality and value. If you can snag a chick like that, she will be worth dating for a long time. Those kiss you AND your wingman chicks are good for FUCKING THAT DAY and that’s it! >2 days ago I tried with a cool irish friend of mine, he freaked >out completely after 3 minutes. But we were IN!!!! Those two >9s were arrogant merkin bitches, with a LOT of friends (a dozen?) >I got them to kiss us on the cheeks, and took pictures and stuff >(gotta develop them -- I will scan them and post) but the >fuckin idiot gave up right away! > ><----------In? If you call that IN...... that’s what I always say... you guys need MORE of a goal than kissing bitches on their cheeks :) I mean, really... if that is a major step for you, then fine... babies HAVE to crawl before they walk, but DAMN! >"My friend thinks you’re bioutifoul, we should be friends, they are a >great couple, we should go out together, etc ..." > ><-------I’m amazed at women who say they don’t want guys who are into >their looks yet reward looks-based approaches. > > >And it fuckin’ seems to work! > ><-------Does it get you laid? If so, how do the relationships turn out? >A top seducer would make sure to find the best long-term option unless >he’s a hard-core player like Mystery. It doesn’t seem like they are up to the "get laid" portion of our program :) >Next WE hopefully, I should see that guy who’s hilariously funny and >quite a good artist by himself. He told me several things about his >technique. > ><------Women want a good technique, not a good man. what does THAT mean? >Example: what back the time we were in hischool. There used >to be slow dances in clubs & parties. Instead of getting in >line and ask "wanna dance?" and get rejected 95% of the time >like all the other dancers, he would go to the best looking >girl and tell her, falsely annoyed, "Ok, I agree to dance >with you because you’re alone, but only one dance! And don’t >expect anything else from me!" and would grab her hips w/o - 14 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 189 >waiting for any kind of reply. > ><-----------The Tarzan approach is underrated, for sure. yeah that is a novelty... look at the nerve of this guy... wears off immediately. You need to go for the fuck ASAP or else your window closes fast! >What he does now is joke, after having gained some rapport, >"So what have you planned for the next 20 yrs? -- Huh, nothing? >-- Great! Let’s get married! Let’s go to Las Vegas we can get >married in 5minutes there!" and so on. All jokingly. > ><---------Not jokingly. The joke has a purpose beyond making her laugh. yeah... time stretching, presupposing a relationship, offering marriage... >Comments? > ><-------Within the context of the approach (the romantic equivalent of >cold-calling), it’s not a bad technique. Within the context of >seduction, it’s rather limited in scope. I also think wingmen are a bad >idea. You don’t need kibitzers or spectators. see my other post on uses of wings. Wingmen are extremely useful when they know your style. We know when to extract chicks from the situation. We know when to break off also. I saw my wing wanting to break off from this dummy he was distracting for me, but he didn’t want to fuck up my rap. I immediately started asking the dummy questions and closed ranks between her and her friend that I was talking to, making a triangle and shutting my wing out... he immediately disappeared to check other chicks. A GOOD wing is invaluable. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. 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Subject: Re: Maniacs various replies to questions and other comments (NYC, Mystery, PU videos, Toronto PU night, shaggin // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Re: NYCs comments about the B-day chick.. why did I give her an offer >to meet her another time after the B-day BS. >Actually, that is funny, because after I read my post, I saw that >fuckup, and I knew that NYC would call me on it in his reply..(BTW, >good post NYC!) which he did This is good, because it means I am >starting to see the same things he is, before he tells me about >themthats progress. Now I just got to see them before I do the >fuckup. Yes! that is excellent :) you’ve come a long way from your "I got 15 USELESS numbers in one night" posts :) you are definitely getting the mindset... constant application, and BTW I thing you sarge more than ANYONE here... I REPEAT... ANYONE!, will get it in there so that as SOON as some bullshit comes out of their mouths, you’ll be like "ohhh, this calls for..." and just spit it out at them to their shock and amazement :) many times I am ready to bust a chick on what she said, but have to wait over a minute to call her on it because she KEEPS TALKING and I can’t get a word in, so I just wait to spring it on her... or if it’s really important I cut her off and DEAL THE CARDS! >Re: NYC and that perfume chick who wanted him to buy her some food >Next time, if a chick asks you to buy her a meal, just tell her you >happen to have some spaghetti at home, and she can come over and make >that for you instead, and youll let her have some ;-) sure... you are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT... except that I mentioned in my post that she was NOT MY TYPE :( She was attractive for a west indian chick but I don’t like west indian chicks at all, so she had no wins. Don’t worry... that spaghetti shit is waiting there in the front of my mind to spring out at some unsuspecting chick :) on another topic... I missed a PU today :) it was really funny because I was so meta-stating about this chick that I wasn’t even seeing anymore! A couple of days ago I had a sarging BREAKDOWN because it is not in my nature to go around smiling at everybody and disarming obstacles and calculating how to get to this chick and that chick... I just couldn’t stand it anymore! I kept the knowledge in the back of my mind, but I shut off and went back to being essentially anti-social. As soon as that happened, I no longer gave a fuck about meeting girls in the street, and was back to BLATANTLY, GREEDILY checking out T&A :) - 16 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Maniacs various replies to questions and other c... / Post 190 So I’m walking down the street and this GORGEOUS chick is coming toward me with this really sexy dirty-blonde hair and really fine body... but her face was really the most attractive thing about her... I mean she was really nice to look at! So I was looking at her and I THOUGHT I was still in realtime... responding to primary stimulus... but I wasn’t :) All of a sudden, her face completely changed from the STILL PHOTO I was using to dream about her back to realtime and she was looking square in my eyes and SMILING in a friendly fashion. I was at first shocked that she kind of SKIPPED FRAMES in front of my eyes, then I smiled at her in some weak fashion then we passed each other. She was still smiling when she went past. I could have tried to tell her something after that, but I really didn’t give a damn :) It was so funny though... I know I was looking at her like "WOW" and I guess she was digging the compliment of my fucked up meta-state drooling look at her :) My eyes communicated with her while I was still down for the count. I am sure that if I had been concsious and caring, I could have pulled her into a convo right there, but I was neither and just let it go :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 17 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Evening Report: Ms HB Seoul watches lambada and d... / Post 191 Re: Evening Report: Ms HB Seoul watches lambada and d... / Post 191 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (191) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Evening Report: Ms HB Seoul watches lambada and drinks at Starbucks. // view thread online Post Date: June 15th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >She wanted to meet me in some other place and skip my class, but >I told her that it had to be Roppongi, and I would go to class, and >she could come watch me if she wanted. She agreed.. > ><------Was there a reason she couldn’t have dropped the phone, and just >come over there and had sex with you? Be most aggressive with Returning >Foxes. hmm... now THAT is a stonewall. I hadn’t even considered that when I replied earlier. I recommended stonewalling her if she didn’t put out immediately upon seeing her... however this is even better! Still more aggressive. I am not even going to talk to you any more about SHIT! Come over her and suck my dick NOW or I am hanging up, and don’t bother me any more unless you’re calling to sex me! HAHAHAHAHA I feel so evil! >The words are too complicated for each of us (Mystery, in Russia, how >did you handle this? Other suggestions guys?). > ><----------------Um, dancing? hahahaha straight to the K >I took her hands along the way at the table, she doesnt resist, that >is good. I give her a neg. about her nails, and later her hair.I touch >her, stroke her hair.. > ><------With an Asian chick this isn’t much progress. They will tolerate >a lot and save their defenses for the Red Zone, which is why you should >have gone for sex immediately after she returned. does anyone have any evidence to corroborate this? I need the information because my wing is into chinese chicks and so now I have to find ways to deal with "traditional" chinese chicks. The americanized ones I can handle :) I know that they are submissive / don’t give many opinions... but I would assume that would continue all the way to the bedroom, thus the great number of "Joy Luck" couples. I am interested in this save their defenses for the Red Zone idea. That would be a REAL trap of chicks that give out the number and come on to you a lo, then you have trouble fucking them. Personally, if I can get my hands on American chicks in a private place and they don’t have some sort of MORAL hangup like not cheating on their boyfriends, I am in there. I see defense at the level of letting me isolate them, because they know what’s going to happen as soon as we get alone :) >Once outside, I take her hand, no resistance at all, that is good. We - 18 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Evening Report: Ms HB Seoul watches lambada and d... / Post 191 >hold hands the whole rest of the night. She asks me if I got a GF, so I >say no (since she said no before). > ><------How about saying "you tell me" instead? to what effect? >What do I do here guys? She didnt look ready for a kiss (no long >staresa little reciprocal touching, but not as much as I expect for >when a chick is ready to be kissed..etc), so I didnt try to kiss >her..the non verbal just wasnt right. Without talking, what could I >have done here to move things along? > ><---------End the evening. Your mistake was much earlier. You are in a >poisoned position here. Well, tainted anyway. That’s what I said... either STALL until you can see another way to the desired outcome or call it a night. I also agree that you fumbled at the phone call stage. You should have hardlined her. There was one chick that I was verbally, directly trying to fuck. She seemed interested but kept flaking. I told her that she was crazy and bullshitting and DO NOT CALL ME ANY MORE! And got off the phone with her. No less than one week later (and to my utter surprise) she called me up and told me she wanted to come see me. She came over, we fucked. End of story. You really need to see when chicks are NOT going to produce your desired outcome and THROW THOSE BITCHES A-WAYYYYYYY! Don’t pretend... DO IT! Don’t be lazy... that time you spent with this chick could have been spent meeting 5 others instead. >I should have >gesures to have her kiss me on the lips in retro -retro -spect..I >should have had her do this all in the bar, got her to kiss me on the >lips then got her outside, and rammed my tongue down her throght). I >kiss her on the cheek too, we promise to meet next Saturday, and she >gets off the train. > ><-----You think if she knew your true thoughts she’d want you? NOPE! that’s what I told him about the other chick. He keeps hiding his true intentions, but never comes with the deadly strike! Like Swayze said... Be Nice... Until it’s time to NOT BE NICE! :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 19 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Characteristics of a good talker / conversationalist / Post 192 Re: Characteristics of a good talker / conversationalist / Post 192 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (192) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Characteristics of a good talker / conversationalist // view thread online Post Date: June 16th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >> 3 Appear Genuine / Honest > >I’m dumping this one. It dont fucking matter. They really dont >fucking care. All that crap woman tell us about honesty and commitment >is just the female game. It’s all bullshit. They really dont care. >They just want to jerk you chain. Be a jerk! Be as phoney, fake and >dishonest as hell. It really dont matter. It all depends. If the chick is a long-term prospect, be honest. It WILL catch up to you. You WILL slip up, then her entire belief in your personality and your love for her (hehe not that you love her... you just TOLD HER you do) might crumble :) If OTOH you are going for the fast lay, you cannot afford to be honest. Honesty gets in the way of creating your character from the values she is looking for in a man. If you are afraid of heights, and she likes a daring man, you have to be prepared to tell her stuff like you want to take her skydiving so you can feel the adreneline rush. It’s nowhere near the truth, but getting her to see you as the adventurous, exciting man that SHE WANTS TO FUCK is the desired outcome. It is more important to be a good liar than to appear honest... two different things really. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 20 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: What’s a 10? was: half black girl / Post 193 Re: What’s a 10? was: half black girl / Post 193 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (193) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: What’s a 10? was: half black girl // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com > >When i wanna fuck and i see a girl who looks good to me, i generally rate her >as 8+. >Mostly because my body and mind want to fuck her and she looks good to me. >Same for all guys. >Any girl they wanna fuck (while completely sober and not desperate) will be >an >8+ to them. >Lets call this Daniel’s Law. >:) Nice move Daniel :) As he plants the flag of Daniel on boldly discovered ground... similar to how Columbus FUCKED UP and THOUGHT he was in India and named the native people of the land we call America "Indians" and it stuck to this day :( I look forward to some newbie quoting "Daniel’s Law" in the not-so-near future :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 21 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: God! The competition! / Post 194 Re: God! The competition! / Post 194 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (194) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: God! The competition! // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >It establishes ownership immediately though. If a chick is >>going to let you grab her and stop her from going somewhere and make her >talk >>to you, she will go for ANYTHING ELSE you command her to do, or anywhere >else >>you shove her head later on in your car. > > >Ya think? >Sometimes we just talk to you or allow ourselves to be grabbed because >we’re so (too) concerned about being polite. Moreover, the above >sounds pretty fuckin’ violent to me. >I realize that women can be horribly rude to men, especially when >alcohol is involved, but get the wrong person in your car when she’s >all drunk, and you’re asking for trouble. > >Kate well :) thank goodness! Finally, a rationally responding non-killfileable no-spam chick on this NG :) Welcome Kate! now... I think the first issue is "we allow ourselves to be grabbed". That is my point EXACTLY. The reasons why are immaterial... too polite, you like how the guy dresses, he looks like he has money, you saw him get out of a porsche... whatever. The fact of the matter is that if you allow someone to grab you and start a conversation, he has taken away your rights, or perhaps you have given your right to do what you want when you want AWAY to him. Please reference the "fighting" thread from a couple of weeks ago. Where do you draw the line? grabbing? feeling your tits in public? telling you to suck his dick in the car? I have seen this grabbing technique done many times. Two things happen. The chick pulls her arm away from the guy and keeps walking OR she stops and gets "talked to" like a deer in headlights. My point is that if she will let you do THAT to her, there are many other things you can just command her to do that she will not resist either... and again the reasons why are immaterial. Which part was the violent part you referred to? the grabbing her arm part or the sucking his dick part? I agree with you COMPLETELY that this tactic is for neanderthals AND anyone that does this should be ready to fight when they pull - 22 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: God! The competition! / Post 194 on the wrong chick and she calls her BF or just whatever guys she knows to kick this guy’s ass. As far as the doing head part, it is a natural continuation of a relationship between a dominant and a submissive, or a controller and controllee. She has been TAKEN by him... yes, by FORCE and perhaps VIOLENTLY... but she went for it. She let it happen. How do you think people get into and remain in ABUSIVE relationships. At some point, they relinquish their rights to some guy... and that’s all she wrote! This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 23 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: The BIG Question. / Post 195 Re: The BIG Question. / Post 195 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (195) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: The BIG Question. // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >> A Guy wrote: >> > >> > What DO women want??? >> > >That’s important. Why do you think we always ask "so what do you do?" thanks for asking lilith :) what I do for a living is teach women how to orgasm... interested? for a small fee I would be willing to er... see what I can do for you >I know I don’t want to be supporting his ass. I want him to make as much or >more than I make. please please... mainly irrelevant. first of all supporting me ASSUMES a relationship. second, even though I know you were just joking :) you are not taking into account what YOU really need a man for... shall we check DejaNews? hmm? I remember asking you if you wanted that guy’s trust fund and you replied something to the effect of "It’s certainly not his money... I make my own money"! oops... BUSTED :) now... since you don’t need a man to support you yet you also don’t want to support him, what is REALLY important to you in a relationship lilith? I submit that if your sole purpose for having a MAN in your life is to make you feel that liquid heat way down inside and slide a taste of the good life across your tongue, then if you met the man pointing to himself, you would support him regardless of whether sampson had 2 goats or 4. >PS We also want him to be totally perfect, in other words >we want him to be a woman with all the guy qualities. hahaha methinks you need a lesbo with a strap-on :) >(goin’ back into lurk mode) (waiting in my tree-perch for the next lilith sighting so I can get a clean shot) - 24 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: The BIG Question. / Post 195 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 25 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: The second chat / Post 196 Re: The second chat / Post 196 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (196) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: The second chat // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Greg "rips" who***9@my***.com [ safemail ] ’s second chat to shreds.... > >who***9@my***.com [ safemail ] wrote: OH SHIT! Greg vs. Greg for the title of the TRUE Greg! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA May the best Greg win! :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 26 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 197 Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 197 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (197) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Do players ever fall in love? // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Its a genuine question....no flames, please. >I’ve always been able to spot players easily, and avoided them because >I knew the fun I could have with them wouldn’t be worth the >degredation that accompanied it. can you elaborate on the degradation you feel when YOU choose to fuck a player and USE HIM for his sexual prowess instead of some dweeb that has a good job and loves you and CAN’T FUCK WORTH A DAMN? It’s a genuine question hidden in there somewhere :) >Can a player actually love someone enough to stop playing? > >Kate It has nothing to do with love... or maybe it does :) This is a really good question. It depends on what the guy is "playing" for. If he is the type that likes to fuck chicks then throw them away, no he will not stop because the fun is THROWING THEM AWAY! If he is the type (like I am) that constantly desires new and exciting stimulus and just likes women in GENERAL, then it comes down to luck and natural selection. The luck part is actually meeting a woman that fulfulls all my desires and keeps the sex hot AND interesting for longer than a week :) The natural selection part is that if she is giving me all I need, it is likely that I will continue to date her instead of looking for new chicks to replace her, because others would be redundant... which has nothing to do with love, BUT the outcome is the same... ONE GIRLFRIEND! OTOH if a "player" is the type to fall in love, it will probably happen to him FAST because his hobby is meeting women. He will inevitably hit on a woman that blows his mind in more ways than one :) His natural instinct will kick in and he WILL fall in love, adn stop playing... for the time being anyway. Actually... I THINK you are defining a "player" as a guy that can get girls whenever he wants, or at least has enough success that he does not NEED to latch onto one girl in particular. In this case, it’s ALL UP TO YOU to snag him. You have to demonstrate personality and value to him that makes you unique in his eyes. He will promote you from nobody to some chick to girlfriend (one of several) to best-girlfriend to exclusive girlfriend... IF you can demonstrate enough personality to make him believe that losing you would be a MAJOR MISTAKE and that finding another woman like you would be nearly impossible. After that, you will probably succumb to the happiness in your mind :) - 27 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 197 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 28 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Maniac: follow up comments to Ms. Seoul HB report / Post 198 Re: Maniac: follow up comments to Ms. Seoul HB report / Post 198 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (198) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Maniac: follow up comments to Ms. Seoul HB report // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Re: NYC’s, Outfoxxing’s comments. > >I have now read outfoxing’s page on ’returning foxes’. >This was my first time I experienced this, so now I am >prepared for the next time and won’t fuck it up again. good... could have avoided ALL that shit :) >Oh, why I don’t pick up chicks in Lambada class... a personal >choice really, I don’t like shitting in the place where I live, fair enough... like I said you sarge more than anyone here :) I was curious though why you would not use a CAPTIVE AUDIENCE where the K interaction was not your fault at all. I see why though and agree completely. However if that’s truly the case, you shouldn’t have asked that chick for her number and let her turn you down. Sarge or don’t sarge. Don’t flake :( >Re: NYC; not asking what a chick wants in a guy, but rather >ask her her own values and emulate that instead... Absolute >fucking wisdom NYC. I did have a problem with this last >night, because it did violate my rule of "never listen >what a chick says she wants, look at what she does". your >answer fixes this issue. that’s not actually the correct rule. the rule is LISTEN to what a chick says... ONLY in the context of what you know about her. If you don;’t listen, you don’t hear. If you don’t listen and she says "fuck me", what then? NOT LISTENING is idiotic! Just don’t base ANY of your behavior or statements on what she SAYS. You elicit her values FIRST. Find out who she really is, then when she says things you can judge them against what you have perceived to be her true nature and decipher what she is talking about. Example... you live downtown and the chick you are with lives uptown from where you are eating. The chick wants to go out drinking after you finish. You suggest going uptown to get closer to HER HOUSE. She vetoes that and wants to go downtown... closer to YOUR HOUSE. How do you take that? There is no way to know unless you know how her mind works already. Either she is making it HARDER for you to get to her house or EASIER to get to your house. The glass is half empty or half full. In this particular scenario, the feelings you elicited from her regarding your house and her house are essential. If you know she has NO INTENTION of going to your house, you can assume she is taking you AWAY FROM her house and you need to act accordingly. If you know that she - 29 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Maniac: follow up comments to Ms. Seoul HB report / Post 198 hates to fuck when her roommate is home and there is a 50% chance that her roommate is there now, you COULD assume that she is leading you TOWARD a place where the two of you can be alone... your house. It could be something as simple as she has been to all the bars near her house and wants to try other bars... sex has NOTHING TO DO with her decision (like when Hot Pants came to your house for Spaghetti). This is what you listen for, so you can read between the lines and make effective decisions which lead toward your desired outcome :) >BTW, NYC, maybe this would be really helpful. Would you mind >looking at my Ms. Sparkles story, and my Ms. Seoul >story, and then rewrite them (from the very very beginning, > >That would be great, and so helpful! > >Maniac hehe unfortunately, we EACH have certain pluses and minuses that make our individual styles USELESS to each other. For instance, I communicate with my eyes primarily. I can pull girls from across crowded dance floors or noisy bars. When I lock with them, it turns into a "what do you want" battle between me and her. If it is positive on both sides, we end up smiling at each other and I go to meet her or she comes over to meet me. No words. No gestures. Just eyes. I don’t know WHY that happens for me but it does. I can also communicate with babies like that. I can communicate love and caring to them through eye contact and facial expressions and they understand me and recognize me in a crowd of people after we connect a few times that way. Much of my behavior is based on things like that which are not unique to me, but everyone does not have that. Also, I work out a lot and it shows. I can walk into a place and have women OBVIOUSLY stare at my body and shamelessly compliment me on it. Again... not unique to me, but it is one of the bases for my style of meeting and relating to women. For me to say what I would say or do in a situation would be USELESS because there are so many parts that I don’t understand myself, that whatever I could post would NOT be of any use to you. Also, I have BEEN through the situations you mention in your post A LONG TIME AGO :) These things would not happen to me any more because I analyzed and learned from my mistakes. That is one of the reasons I reply IN DETAIL to your posts. I am re-testing my logic. I am getting to live vicariously through your posts because I NEVER get into situations like those anymore. New York has no rappongi(sp?) BUT there is a WIDE selection of fine women here and especially in the downtown areas where the older males hire younger female secretaries with big tits and sleek business suit-skirt sets and high heels, you can have twenty 8+ chicks pass you just because the light changed to WALK! :) Chicks here are completely expendable... even if there weren’t millions (literally, counting dogs and fine women alike) to begin with chicks move in all the time... tourism is incredible here. Some of the finest foreign women YOU WILL SEE are around the hotels on the west side, or shopping on 5th avenue. I can get rejected by 50 woman a day EASILY! I can do that over a lunch hour actually... every day... and NEVER talk to the same chick twice! Now, before you guys try to laugh at the prospect of crashing and burning that much (not that I do it... I’m no massochist) THE POINT IS that my rep remains the same after all of that! NONE of the chicks that turn me down will ever see me again, or be in my social circles. The odds are incredible against it in this town. I say all this as a background for ME being in one of your - 30 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Maniac: follow up comments to Ms. Seoul HB report / Post 198 post-scenarios. Thinking about how expendable chicks are... When I meet a chick in a bar, do I get her number and make a date with her, or do I spend 15 minutes getting to know her and weighing her qualities vs what I am looking for in a woman then tell her BYE when she doesn’t measure up and leave her there? If I am out for coffee with a chick, do I bring her home with me WITHOUT KNOWING that she wants to fuck OR do I find out what she thinks about sex in general and taste her and feel her up a little BEFORE moving the party to my house? If I threw a maniac-patented tantrum and blew a chick out and she calls me weeks later and wants a date, do I say "ok how about thursday" or do I say "why should I give you another chance to be with me? you threw away your chance when I gave it to you" and wait for her to tell me what I am going to get in return for letting her back in? Notice this is the same style I used on the GYRO chick that approached me. "why should I buy you a gyro?" Now I could have said "listen... I’ll buy you a gyro right after you suck my dick" just like you could have said to the Returning Fox "I am not going to waste ANY more of my time with you. Come over here NOW and sex me and you’re back in." If she refused you could have told her "don’t call me again until you’re ready to fuck" and HUNG UP! It is like a chess game. You want me to teach you openings and all that does is set up the middle game. Openings (different from openERS for you non-chess players) are important in the beginning, but that’s all. It is useless to know variations of Ruy Lopez AFTER you lose your queen. You want to be the type of chess player that can walk up to a mid-game that you didn’t start and assess the position and make the best out of it. Either win it or stalemate if your position is that bad. The only way to learn to play chess starting from the middle... is to play chess starting from the middle... constantly. Get yourself into situations JUST to get back out of them. PRACTICE your field-work. Practice on ugly chicks if you don’t have an abundance of HBs like in NYC, but you do have them in rappongi, so just get out there and don’t try to score... pay attention to what you are trying to accomplish. I’m sure you will in the process ACCIDENTALLY lay some of the chicks :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 31 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: how to respond? / Post 199 Re: how to respond? / Post 199 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (199) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: how to respond? // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >You have the advantage of being 20! Don’t blow it wasting >your time chasing one chick. If you can have 10 other women as hot as this >19 year old tommorow would you go for it? Good luck. Greg2 is absolutely right :) the chick is important to you, but put her on the back burner. call her one more time JUST to give her your number. DO NOT talk to the sister AT ALL. Talk directly to her and tell her to write your number in her DIARY or whatever she has to do to make sure she never loses it again, because if she does, you are not going to continue seeing her. Then get off the phone. No more conversation. Give her YOUR rules to be with you. As long as she acknowledges that she heard the rules, she ccan be held accountable for breaking them. Excommunicate her then Returning Fox her for the blowjob. In the meantime, fuck her sister This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 32 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: No sex! / Post 200 Re: No sex! / Post 200 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (200) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: No sex! // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I say, ’No sex, don’t bother coming over.’ good. he set the rules. She can now choose to follow the rules or not. Come over for sex or don’t come over at all. >She says, ’No food, I won’t come over’ I say, ’fine’ and that’s it. She >changes subject and I get off the phone quickly. good. didn’t back down from rules. >An hour later she’s at my doorstep knocking. I invite her in and see that >she’s nervous--the first thing she says is, ’No sex’. so what she said no sex. That is what they mean by listen to what she says in context to what you know about her. You told her "if you come over here, I am getting sex from you" she came over. she KNOWS what she’s there for. That saying "no sex" shit was just some bullshit she decided to say. Depending on whether you are willing to spend an evening with her without sex, this is the time to either take her word that she is not giving up sex and slam the door back in her face, or let her in and immediately go to work on her physically. If you are willing to take the chance that she is not going to do anything, proceed like a regular date... you should be prepared though to CUT HER OFF FOREVER if she doesn’t produce that night because she DEFIED your rule "no sex, don’t bother coming over" If you let her break it with impunity, you have been tested and you FAILED! >I don’t respond. I >offer her a drink (toasted almond) and we sit around and talk. She ends >up sitting in my lap and rubbing her body up against me while saying, ’No, >stop’ in that way that means, ’don’t stop’. She takes off her own top and >I unbutton her pants--she takes them off while saying, ’no, I can’t’. > >We end up in bed and she spends the night. She confesses that she kept >thinking about the sex even when she told me that she didn’t want to have >sex... Ended up correctly... I guess This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 33 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Outing Report: Elvis who!?!? ;-) / Post 201 Re: Outing Report: Elvis who!?!? ;-) / Post 201 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (201) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Outing Report: Elvis who!?!? ;-) // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I kept getting eye contact from a chick who was with a foreign guy. My >impression >is that he wasn’t a BF, but he took her out on a date, and she was >bored. Had he >left long enough, I might have tried getting her number just before I >left, HAHAHAHAHA now you know why that chick got up and "went to the bathroom" unannounced when you were in the movies with her :) >but >the chance didn’t arise before I left, and I didn’t want to try it much >before >leaving in case she told him I tried a hit, as he was a big US army >type dude. that’s why the guy extracted her to another area from the one you could see the two of them in :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 34 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: No sex! / Post 202 Re: No sex! / Post 202 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (202) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: No sex! // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >You men claim to wish to have a women who would just come over to your >place, say "you ready", and then just get in on right there. That’s ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! You understand me so well. I feel this incredible connection to you... like you know my every desire and wish to fulfill them for me :) Can I offer you some spaghetti? >After your >done (5 min later) she leaves. no. she leaves in the morning after I’ve used her SEVERAL times and there is no more time to use her before showering and going to work :) >But we have all been labeled whores >because of those types of actions. And you guys are the first ones to >label us. seems to me that YOU labeled yourself a whore. Frankly I reserve the label "whore" for a chick that gets paid to fuck and since I won’t be paying you, you should come up with a better term for your expliots. It’s not every day that you succumb to my happiness :) >Sometimes all we have is our sensitivity. As a women I am sure >that I can embelish on this story a little bit. I mean this story is >just great to tell all your buddies and you all get a good laugh, but >let me tell you how it really happened: > >Sitting on the couch-guy says,"Baby, I am so sorry that you have been >going through all these hard times. I am here for you, you know that. I >love you, I really do. I am not just one of those pigs that all they >want is sex, all I want is YOU. I am so sorry." > >They have sex. that’s a nice story, but the point of THIS newsgroup is to work on tactics for fucking chicks. IF that had been what really happened and he reported something else, the advice hw would receive would be USELESS to him because he didn’t tell us the real reason he didn’t get the pussy that night. BTW - are those "Baby, I’m having hard times, please hold me" lines what usually gets you to place a man’s dick on your tongue and slowly take it all deep inside? - 35 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: No sex! / Post 202 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 36 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: No sex! / Post 203 Re: No sex! / Post 203 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (203) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: No sex! // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com ><------He had a Returning Fox. It’s the ultimate position of strength, >like a boss who fires you and then tries to call you back into work. The >general rule is never to take a no from a Returning Fox. I would have >made her kiss me at the door and told her that on the phone, in a way he did that... however, that’s what I meant by he was taking his chances by letting her in at all. He should have jumped her as soon as she showed up at the door. If she decided not to kiss him or let him feel her up, he can step back and SLAM THE DOOR IN HER FUCKING FACE and go back to whatever he had planned for the night. She will either GO AWAY which is what you want all useless chicks to do (if you’re not saving them for pivots) or she will ring again and try to get the response RIGHT this time and gain entry to paradise :) >and for good >measure I would have instructed her to find the sexiest outfit in her >closet (which she does while on the phone), and to be wearing it when she >shows up. damn... again a more aggressive stance than mine. That’s a good point. If she’s going to come over, it may as well be FANTASY NIGHT :) She can come over looking like the slut she’s going to be used as tonight! :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 37 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: The second chat / Post 204 Re: The second chat / Post 204 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (204) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: The second chat // view thread online Post Date: June 17th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >NYC! lololololol Let’s duel it out!!!! hehehe > >Hey Greg, > >It’s easy to do the aloof thing online. Just start 2 or 3 conversations >at once. I’ve had little luck with it and am trying to find a new > >The one and only GREGness > >hehehe TELL HIM Greg1! come on Greg2... whatcha got for him? MrDonKing4u This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 38 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 205 Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 205 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (205) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Do players ever fall in love? // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I just want all you guys to know that some of us (that you are >more likely to meet through a mutual hobby than a bar) do really like >and respect nice men. The mutual hobby angle is really important. It is an immediate connection between people if they like the same things or join the same clubs. It is infinitely better than the bar/club scene. People in bars don’t evenhave drinking in common. They like different drinks or don’t drink at all, just came out to be among people. Hell... a friend of mine actually used to go to a VOLLEYBALL club :) I got many many laughs at his expense, but he pulled some FINE chicks just by being on the same teams with them and "enjoying" the same sport that they loved. PS - whatever you pick, it also helps to be GOOD! >I think any past attractions I’ve had to players (a few intense ones) >had to do with the sense of a freer time that they helped create. that’s pretty vague. can you give an example of a freer time for you? This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 39 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 206 Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 206 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (206) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Do players ever fall in love? // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I learned over time that it was not emotionally possible for me to >become sexually involved with someone without developing some kind of >feelings (that were surely biological in origin anyway.) how long did it take you to develop these feelings? a week? a minute? are you saying that you could not (when you were on the market) fuck a guy that you were not physically attracted to? what do YOUR emotions have to do with you having sex? YOU are not the one that needs to maintain an erection :) >How though, does one deal with the boredom that might eventually >plague an otherwise excellent relationship? what boredom? do you mean monotonous, repetitive sex with the same person for years? YUK! are you talking sexual boredom or "we’ve already discussed all this shit before and I already know what you’re going to say before you say it" boredom? >Lie? keep playing? View the playing as self-destructive, try to quit, >resent your partner, split up? I gather you mean sexual boredom. I just recently learned the difference (for me at least) between a relationship and a hobby. Chicks are my hobby... like models or toy trains. There are also women that I actually like to spend time with REGARDLESS of sex. This is because they are interesting as people and nice to look at, however they don’t posess the sex drive or skill that I look for in a sex partner. I would not lie in this situation because lying about my hobby can potentially screw up relationships, if the truth came out somehow. I would just be up front with the chick I am in a "relationship" with and tell her that if I had to physically be with just her, I would resent her eventually and dump her for the action. If she could accept a relationship with me and not interfere with my hobby, that would be excellent :) ... that’s why I prefer relationships with BIs or Lesbos. I can hang out with them and we can BOTH criuse chicks :) >Can someone whose cut his teeth on a diet of multiple women >ever be content with one, no matter how he loves her? I think that as soon as the law of diminishing returns kicks in and the numbers of ops he is getting goes lower and lower, he will latch onto the best chick he has at the time and make a go of it with her... RIGHT OUTFOXER! :) - 40 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 206 hehehe sorry man... couldn’t resist the open 3 :) >He will inevitably hit on a woman >>that blows his mind in more ways than one :) His natural instinct will kick >in >>and he WILL fall in love, adn stop playing... for the time being anyway. > >I knew one guy who believed he had found such a woman, so he left his >best friend of 18 years, also his wife, with whom he had two baby >daughters, for her. southpark, Devil vs Jesus episode... THAT GUY... is a JERK! That’s fucking despicable! If you are a single player, fine. Break some hearts, screw some chicks. If you are responsible for bringing lives into this world BE FUCKING RESPONSIBLE! Fuck all you want to, but don;t abandon your kids :( What an asshole! >After a few years she dumped him, and now his life >is a mess....lost his house, struggling business, mom has to pay his >child support, etc. good for him. he deserves to rot and die for leaving his daughters alone to grow up in this FUCKED UP, back woods trailer park Rikki Lake society. fuck him. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 41 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: My First Try / Post 207 Re: My First Try / Post 207 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (207) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: My First Try // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >But wait a second ... was there a time when u saw this really ugly or >disgusting chick and you imagined what its like to bang her ? >Well i certainly have had this ( and lots ) type of experience, but the fact >that i "imagined or she lead my imagination in such a way" will not under any >circumstances become a REALITY. somewhere in there is an interesting question that I had not considered myself. say some fat ugly chick wanted to jump your bones. what would she have to say to you to get you to fuck her... um... nevermind. just answered my own question :) the reason this will not work is that men and women use entirely different systems of attraction. men are attracted to what they see and can touch. women are attracted to how they FEEL about you. that’s the difference that makes SS work on women. NLP in general works on everybody that is succeptible to suggestion... I am not saying that NLP only works on chicks. the reason SS from a disgusting chick WILL NOT work on me is that I CAN SEE HER! This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 42 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: No sex! / Post 208 Re: No sex! / Post 208 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (208) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: No sex! // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >>But we have all been labeled whores >>because of those types of actions. And you guys are the first ones to >>label us. > >seems to me that YOU labeled yourself a whore. Frankly I reserve the >label >"whore" for a chick that gets paid to fuck and since I won’t be paying >you, you >should come up with a better term for your expliots. It’s not every day >that >you succumb to my happiness :) > ><------What’s the male equivalent of the bitch shield? The jerk shield? hahahaha I guess so. It protects me from bullshitting bitches :) if a chick wants to flirt with me, I get to the bottom of that shit QUICK! I will extract, isolate and attack her IMMEDIATELY and see what she is REALLY interested in. If she is a tease, fine.. she can keep me company while I meet other chicks. If she is not, I’ll give her a wild ride and probably not ask her for her number :) I’m gonna be out on the prowl next week anyway... besides I only need to talk to chicks that demonstrate PERSONALITY and VALUE (not to mention NET WORTH!) not chicks that demonstrate that they can suck my dick :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. 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Meeting Ms. Spacey // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >She can only process one thing at a(B >(Jtime in her brain, you talk to her, and her face turns real serious(B >(Jwhile she thinks, and then the smile returns, and eye contact returns,(B >(Jand then the answer comes out. It was weird. I don’t use interrupts, but this would have been a good chick to try them out on. She was nice, though, and(B >(JI just said "Hi" when I made eye contact. (B good. >(JI asked her what her job was, and why she was here in the bar(B >(Jtonight(to talk English she said). Then I started to do the IC with(B >(Jher, and then got her values out,.. so far so good. Mr. Lager was(B >(Jstanding by bored, so the chick went and got her friend over, (a 7,(B >(Jcute, but dressed shitty). Then we could all talk. I started engaging(B >(Jboth chicks as Lager was having a bit of a slow night, so then I was(B >(Jdoing the same run down on chick two. It was not a dance bar, so it was(B >(J-possible to talk to both chicks at the same time,this was cool. Better(B >(Jthan yesterday. I asked them about themselves, and ask them to describe(B >(Jtraits about each other (the chicks). Then I asked about BFs (no BFs),(B >(Jand asked them what part about their bodies they thought were most(B >(Jattractive to a guy (one chick said her legs, so I touched her legs,(B >(Jand commented kiddingly about them. Reaction was good, laughing and a(B >(Jbit of Kino. Very good. (B hmm. interesting. what part do they think is most attractive to guys. nice one, but not effective for me because I leave all sex references to the meta-states unless she asks me directly what I think of her body parts. the rest of the NG should take notice though. >(JI also realized a problem I have don$BCU(J tell stories, I(B >(Jonly ask questions to elicit things. That is good, but not enough. It(B >(Jbores the chicks, and I sound like an interregator, and it makes it(B >(Jhard to direct conversations. I will improve this by learning how to(B >(Jtell stories over the next week or two, about topics that will lead the(B >(JPU in directions I want to go. I think this will help a lot (thanks NYC(B >(Jfor that insight). - 44 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: [fixed repost]: Outing report: The bad PU and per... / Post 209 if she is a talker, ask questions if she is a listener, tell stories the outcome is the same. only way to mess up is talking to a talker and asking questions to a listener. Actually, now that I think about it, I got a lot of(B >(Jinteresting stories, that could get a chick excited, I will work on(B >(Jthis more, story$BCJ(Jze it and try it tomorrow with Smooth, and in(B >(Jthe coming outings. Anyways, as I talked about BF,s and attraction with(B >(JMs. Spacey (Lager was starting to engage shitty dress chick),(B >(J she started touching a bit more, and getting interesting, that was(B >(Jnice. Then lager lost it with the 7 chick, so I suggested to Ms. Spacey(B >(Jthat we meet again, and she said she wanted to meet again. I got her(B >(Jnumber, and we moved on before obstacle 7 chick took my chick away.(B I know you were just practicing, but what did you get her number for? I mean what did you TELL HER you wanted to see her again for? probably nothing. there is nothing wrong with that, but you could have hardlined her about some sort of physical interaction upon receiving her number. sort of playing a mild version of returning fox BEFORE she returns. it all depends on your style and if you felt like you displayed enough personality to run a game like that so soon. >(JThen we headed to a dance bar. I got in, got a drink, and did something(B >(JI saw NYC did once, and some other new stuff..very good(B >(JreactionsI was standing by the dance floor looking at chicks(B >(Jdance. There are these two HBs sitting right near me. A Japanese guy(B >(Jgoes, and makes a pathetic looking pickup and is instantly blown out.(B >(JHe walks away with his head between his legs. Then I turn to HB white(B >(Jskirt and tell her that that was the most pathetic PU I ever saw. Her(B >(Jand her friend just burst out laughing and agreed! It was great, then I(B >(Jpulled a chair up and started talking to them. see. I told you. the comeraderie of BOTH OF YOU AGREEING that the other guy sucks! You never had to approach her BECAUSE you leeched off of HIS CRASH AND BURN! >There was an english(B >(Jclassified ad magazine on the counter next to the table, so I took one,(B >(Jand turned it to the "men looking for women" page, and asked them to(B >(Jtell me which guy$BCT(J ads were interesting to them. I then found a(B >(Jfew really raunchy ones ("a la I want casual sex and a fuck now, call(B >(Jxxx), and translated those to them for their opinions after a "can you(B >(Jbelieve that, like in RJ$BCT(J stuff. excellent :) I will try something like this the first opportunity I get. They don’t have personal ads lying around in bars here, but I could always pick up a paper before I go. I like that angle. sitting in a bar full of chicks looking for a chick in the personal ads :) >That was a good in to(B >(Jstart talking about sex to chicks, and see where they stood. HB white(B >(Jskirt$BCT(J friend, HB tanktop, was basically saying "anything is(B >(Jfine" (after she just blew out the japanese guy), so I figured she is(B >(Jnot really serious, it was a reaction a lot like HB hotpants when I(B >(Jasked her favoritte actor.(B - 45 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: [fixed repost]: Outing report: The bad PU and per... / Post 209 how did you figure that? chicks don’t make sense. they will reject a guy WITHOUT first testing him for the qualities they CLAIM to look for in a man. The Japanese guy got shot down so fast, she COULDN’T HAVE judged him on anything but looks and confidence and "aura". She could not have judged his personality, education, earning potential, overall sense of humor, honesty... NOTHING! Meanwhile, she’s talking to you for NO PARTICULAR REASON. Try not to make judgements about chicks because of what they say because you MIGHT act later upon your beliefs about her bullshit. >(JMr. Lager BTW, is totally disconnected, making it harder, but I am(B >(Jstill in there. The chicks decide to go dancing (near me), so I just(B >(Jwatch them a bit, and then dance hand in hands with a new chick I pick(B >(Jup right near them (hey, HB white skirt didn$BCU(J invite me to dance(B >(Jwith her, so I will just dance with another HB right in front of her!;(B of course. who is she? she has no claim on you until she announces it and acts on it to consummate the deal :) >(Jha!). This got her jealous, and I got eye contact again soon, and a(B >(Jsmile. After that song, I went back to Mr. Lager for a bit, and then to(B >(JHB whiteskirt, and HB tanktop, and did Kino dancing with each of them.(B >(JThat went great. I stop for a moment, and talk to Mr. Lager, standing(B >(Jat the(B >(Jedge, as he$BCT(J not looking well, and another Japanese guy makes a(B >(Jpathetic pickup attempt, I go back to HB whiteskirt after and ask her(B >(Jif that PU was any better, she bursts out laughing and we are hanging(B >(Jon to each other on the dance floor hugging, it was funny.. I then(B >(Jpoint out (a la smooth style), Mr. Lager, and say he is a much better(B >(Jguy than that Japanese guy. She hangs on to me, and says, like(B >(Jyou! That is cool. It is loud, and we keep dancing, touching(B TIME TO MAKE THE DONUTS! >(JThen I got to serious take a leak, so I go and tell them I will be back(B >(Jsoon. ugh :( you need to learn to capitalize on compliments. I’m not sure if you even said "thank you". when she is in the state of "this guy is better than other guys I know" you are in the best position to find out what benefits that status gets you. make her talk more about what makes you better than him. do something OTHER than leave a chick that A) has been drinking B) has been chumming around with you and C) just complimented you in a seemingly genuine fashion. you have no idea how many times I have HELD IT in order to play out a line that will be destroyed or forgotten by the time I returned from the bathroom... forget about the chicks being GONE ALTOGETHER :) >I take my leak, but meet one of the bouncers, and I talk to him a(B >(Jbit (turns out he is really cool, and it is also good to know bouncers(B >(Jin places you go to often..I end up taking 15 minutes). When I get(B >(Jback, the chicks have left. (B good obstacle work HORRIBLE target work. >(JNo problem, as it was a research mission, and basically, that approach(B >(Jworked, got me talking about sex, got me Kino, and distinquished me(B >(Jfrom the wallflowers and other losers in the place, and got the chick(B >(Jto like mes a guy, not a chump. - 46 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: [fixed repost]: Outing report: The bad PU and per... / Post 209 very good. that’s what I tried to explain to someone else in the NG. I can stand either ON loser’s row (which I don’t recommend) or away from it in ONE PLACE, preferably near the women’s room :) and I will not look like a loser if they take more than a cursory glance. That’s because I have a plan in mind for them and I will demonstrate personality and direction to them immediately. It shows. chicks can sense when a guy is harmless. they NEVER get that from me. >This is cool, I consider it(B >(Jprogress. Then I thought about what stories I should tell for the next(B >(Jchick, and had another drink. Mr. Lager was having a bad night, and was(B >(Jtelling me about how he couldn$BCU(J get eye contact and it was so(B >(Jhard told him to not worry about eye contact, just get(B >(Jattention, and get in there (sometimes he is really good, just this(B >(Jweek was not his week ..)..it depressed me a bit, and I wanted to think(B >(Jup some stories so I can get ready for tomorrow with smooth. So I go(B >(Jhome on the last (midnight train), and think stuff up, and write this(B >(Jreport..(B when your wing is BOMBING like that... LEAVE HIM ON THE SIDE. he might get some sympathy chicks while you are sarging... I doubt it though since he wasn’t even getting eye contact. Also, you can talk about him as a "great, but shy guy" and the chicks are none the wiser because they can’t HEAR anything he’s saying to destroy the image you are creating. >(JSummary; NYC is right. Getting in, and distinguishing from "chump" is(B >(Jreally important *EARLY ON*. Smooth techiniques are great to get in,(B >(Jbut then SWITCH right away. The classifieds gimmick works well, I(B >(Jwill try it again, as you can naturally get to a lot of talk about sex,(B >(Jand extreme stuff right away, and naturally, since there are always so(B >(Jmany crazy ads in those things, and they are in all the bars in Tokyo.(B >(JYou can move on to stuff about guys, sex, and then Kino on the dance(B >(Jfloor, it all works really well. Definitely will elaborate on this.(B that technique should yield good results because you can see what the chick agrees with and what she doesn’t. find out how freaky she is. >(JThe chick I danced with to make HB whiteskirt jealous, I also did an(B >(JNYC technique, of just standing next to her and looking at her dance.(B >(JSoon after I got her attention, got eye contact, then took her hands(B >(Jand we started dancing right there, together.. it was that easy. mmmhm that’s right. >That(B >(Jwas also cool. She wasn$BCU(J an HB, but I was just wanting to use(B >(Jher as a pivot for HB white skirt, so that was fine.(B This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. 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Subject: Re: Mystery’s insight // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Some Guy Writes: > >> I think if people took the time to go out and WITNESS LIVE a PLAYER >PERFORM, >> they would GET IT. I mean understand ALL of it. See it all in action >> working together in one 15 minute PERFORMANCE. Most of these dudes >think >> its bullshit to kiss a girl in 15 minutes and to get 5 #s. > >I dont think its Bullshit to kiss a girl in 15 mins, BUT my impression is >that >Mainly the ccheap whores do that kind of stuff. Prove me wrong? > ><-----He can’t. The type of women Mystery gets are players themselves, >just as noncommitted to men, just as messed up, and just as high-risk for >HIV and other diseases.... this is true. I am not vouching for the type of women Mystery gets because I have never met any of them... however, chicks that want to kiss YOU as soon as they meet you would kiss ANY GUY that they like as much as you. same for quick blowjobs. same for quick fucks. I used to believe that I was special when a chick was into me quickly :) I thought it was a major victory to stalk some drunk chick on a club dance floor, dance with her for two songs, then extract her to the couches for some tongue action and feeling her up... if not more :) I eventually noticed a pattern where I would get these chicks without getting their phone numbers or giving them mine. THEY were just as disinterested in seeing me ever again as I was :) I finally realized that the feat was NOT getting these chicks to do what they did... the win was as soon as I got my hands on a HORNY CHICK! She was playing me as much as I was playing her. She wanted a guy to kiss her and I did it for her. She wanted to suck a dick and I provided one for her :) You know the next week, the same chick was in a different club, or even the same club doing the same thing with another guy. It wasn’t like I was something special and knocked her off of her regular pattern. These bitches are empty-netters :) The REAL seduction skills come in when you can get a woman that is holding out for the right man. When you can get a picky woman to take you home and do what she’s wanted to do for so long, but couldn’t find a deserving partner :) >truly high-quality women never put themselves >in that position. They’re the ones that Mystery "negs" and then moves on - 48 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 210 >from, quickly. the high-quality chicks need to be kept around as pivots until they see so much value in you that they do what they need to do to take you off of the market ;) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 49 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: My First Try / Post 211 Re: My First Try / Post 211 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (211) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: My First Try // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >maybe you personally have never gone out with an ugly chick.. neither >have I really.. but it does happen.. I have dated UGLY chicks with killer bodies. I have dated FAT chicks with very pretty faces. It all depends on WHAT I WANT THEM FOR! The fat, prtty chicks will NEVER get me to fuck them... it’s physically impossible :) I’ve seen uglys and fattys with >some pretty good looking guys.. and NLP and shit like that does work on >guys.. not in the same way it works on women of course not.. but it >does work.. and most girls know how to naturally just do this >automatically without knowing NLP. I don’t think so. You are talking about how WE meta-state OURSELVES because of women, not that they have some skill that they are taught, passed down from mother to daughter on how to NLP guys :) >Your right we respond to more >visual stimulas, but we respond to everything! If an ugly skanky chick >dresses sexy she’ll comand attention! yeah, but what KIND of attention? >you can’t help but look at those >little sagging breasts if they’re hanging out! hahahaha fuck that! I hate fucked up titties REGARDLESS of the packaging. Just because YOU go gaga over some old chick’s pancake titties, don’t group ME in with you! seriously... speak for yourself, not all men :) you can’t help but look >at that chunky ass if it’s in some tight leather pants or whatnot.. yeah, but you KNOW what’s going to happen when that ass comes out of those jeans :) You have to have skills at "seeing through clothing" and telling if you can stand it when the chick gets undressed. >whereas there could be a drop dead georgeos chick wearing sweats and >glasses and you may have to look a couple times to make sure she’s >hot.. it’s possible, but gorgeous chicks have an aura about them that is different from other chicks. they are wearing sweats, but feel free... confident because they know they are beautiful. chicks that are not as attractive need to have nice clothes on and makeup and all that shit... the best ones are the ones that wear the sweats and you feel that they are the most beautiful woman on the - 50 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: My First Try / Post 211 block :) >the other thing women do is they inflate your ego.. some people >compliment women and get good results.. but just about any time a woman >compliments a man she’s going to have a pretty favorable responce! Again. speak for yourself, not all men. Some elephant can compliment me from now until next week and I won’t even let her suck my dick! Matter of fact, I won’t even let her LOOK at my dick! :) >very in fact! Plus men have alittle less control over their sex drives >than women do, most women anyways.. so you are admitting that YOU would fuck a 2 or a 3? YOU would fuck one of those trailer-park bitches on COPS that comes out of the house in a ragged t-shirt and cut-off jeans and barefoot in the dirt with no teeth? You are a lucky man to have no taste in women... the world is yours! :) >all these things makes just about >any man a much easier target than any woman would be.. a man like YOU, yes. a man that has a selection or a choice? No. >you think >you’re all bad ass good at seduction and so forth, I will say again for the record... I have always gotten women BY ACCIDENT! Due to no fault/action of my own. That’s why I started learning SS in the first place... in order to INCREASE my mental/audible seduction skills. I never have claimed any credit for being good at seduction and I will never claim credit at being good at seduction until I bag a few beautiful, rich chicks that had NO INTENTION of giving me the time of day... THAT’S SEDUCTION! Seduction is not getting whores and prostitutes to fuck for free. Seduction is not going to a club and getting numbers. Real seduction IMO is mind-bending... turning a neutral or negative into a positive. Changing her mind, not letting her suck a guy’s dick which is what she was dying to do when he came in the door, but the guy is too busy trying to NEG her and play patterns and techniques to see what’s right under his nose. >but women are twice >as good at the game and we’re much easier targets!(specially any >AFCs).. re-evaluate how you think of yourself. really. get more self-esteem. get a defense against the natural meta-state we go into in the presence of women we like. you are giving women WAY TOO MUCH credit and yourself way too little. YOU control your own frame, not them! >so don’t say that jedi mind tricks don’t work on guys from ugly >women cause they do.. and I’ve seen it plenty of times! I am sure of that now :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. 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Subject: Re: Burning Bridges - Question for masters. // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >When you kick a woman to the curb (to set up for a potential returning >fox), do you word your rejection so it sounds permanent, or do you >leave her a glimmer of hope? > ><-------My rule is at the FIRST sign of true resistance. It can be if >she doesn’t give you her # online, or doesn’t agree to a date, or cancels >with a lame excuse, etc. ugh :( once again, outfoxer’s stance is way more aggressive than mine. I will re-evaluate this after I post it, but my immediate response to his part is that I am not aiming for complete control of the chick. I personally LIKE self-starters. I need a chick to try to resist me so I feel like I am doing something to change her mind. That’s the fun for me :) seeing the process from where she didn’t want to suck my dick to when she’s on ker knees slobbing the knob :) I am into the mind-bending aspects of seduction, not so much the final outcome. I can get head by seeking out sluts, or buying things for chicks that like that type of shit. There are a million ways in NYC to get laid. The most fun though is convincing a chick that sexing YOU is what she wants to do... AND FAST! Having said that, at this poing in time I would NOT cut a chick off at the first sign of resistance. I DO however, cut a chick off at the first sign of MAJOR resistance. Chicks exist for MY ENTERTAINMENT :) The only reason I talk to them or interact with them at all is for amusement/getting horny/they are nice to look at. If I am going out of my way to make time for a chick or let her hang out with me (like together, not in a group or we just happened to show up in the same bar) she is there to get felt up and kissed and anything else I want to do to her. As SOON as I get resistance to my personal fun, playtime is over. I make it clear to them from the beginning that I am a physical guy and that’s what I want women for, to look good and be physical. She knows the rules. Thwarting me is breaking the rules. I will IMMEDIATELY go into "hunting" mode and leave her where she stands if I get any resistance. I can get another chick in the time it would take me to break her reisistance. PLUS, what is the point of carrying around a chick that is not with the program? that’s why I keep telling you guys to test these bitches QUICK! find out if they are going to do what you want them to do and if not, DISCARD THEM. they are a waste of your time until they are ready to do the right thing. - 52 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Burning Bridges - Question for masters. / Post 212 HAHAHA NOW... as far as the ACTUAL QUESTION, how to word rejections. DON’T WORD SHIT! walk. step. move out. leave. change locations. put her coat on her back and drag her out the door and drive her ass home and return to the bar :) Actions speak louder than words. When I am calling a chick 3 times a week to talk shit, then she fucks up and I don’t say ANYTHING about it... maybe she thinks "I defied him and nothing came of it". When she receives NO MORE CALLS FROM ME EVER... she gets a clue. When she leaves me messages that get immediately deleted (after scanning for references to immediate compliance on her part) she gets the picture. Her only way back in is to get with the program and REMAIN with it. As soon as I get any problems from her she it OUT again... fo good. fuck her. I got more where she comes from. I probably met TWO of her after I came back to the bar where they already saw me with her :) >Once you do that, if she returns, be VERY >AGGRESSIVE. Yes, sometimes this will cost you a woman, but if you don’t >use this general rule it will cost you a lot of aggravation. again, my style doesn’t call for pulling the trigger so early, but once you pull it, you HAVE to play her aggressively like he said. Otherwise, what you teach her is that if she breaks the rules you won’t see her for a week or two then she’s back in your life. She has no incentive to follow the rules. PLUS, she might start trouble with you just to get you out of her hair while she fucks another guy for a week or two :) >If you’re >willing to endure the aggravation, then you have a numbers-game approach >that will probably pay off after many aggravations due to sheer volume. right. if you don’t Returning Fox her, it may pay off like in a year when one of these days, you are her only alternative to get some dick. I personally don’t think it’s worth it, but if you can stand to be the last resort/buddy, go ahead and play that line. >I do know enough to know that it can’t be a bluff. You have to be >totally prepared to never see her again. (Future Pace) If you are not POSITIVE you can stand being without her, DON’T DO IT! DO NOT DO IT! Just realuze that you are a supplicating chump as far as this one chick is concerned and prepare to hand over your wallet and your dick at the door :) ><----Correct. Though with women, goodbye doesn’t always mean goodbye. >They usually won’t hold you to it, though some will. That’s another thing. I have found that many women THINK guys are bullshitting when they dump them. This is because so many guys BLUFF in order to see how interested the chick is in the relationship. When she doesn’t return the guys call her back sying they were just mad and please come back blah blah blah. Be prepared to hear from her as if you never cut her off. That’s why I don’t respond to her AT ALL until her message seems like she’s ready to do what she is supposed to do. If she runs into me in the street or in a bar, then it is going down RIGHT THERE! If she has anything to say about "you are ignoring me, what happened?" I will explain to her that I am not interested in bullshitters, and there are many other guys in this bar that she can bullshit and they’ll like it, too. stop wasting my time and energy. if she doesn’t straighten up right there, I’ll tell her to get out of the way so I can see this other bitch dancing, then ignore her. - 53 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Burning Bridges - Question for masters. / Post 212 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 54 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 213 Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 213 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (213) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Quick! Not me though. // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >She ignores them. They insist, she talks to them for a >few minutes. Then she gets up and starts to leave. >Then she has second toughts. >They end up going together, hands in hands, all three of them. IMO, they were trying out all the different things that she might require to fuck both of them. Compliments, alcohol, drugs, money, big dicks, backstage passes... She was holding out until she heard something that she wanted that she was willing to trade sex for. Very simple. very basic. depending on what their life story is, many fine women can be bought for a low price. If you can offer her an experience that she is not willing or able to pay for herself, she might rent you her pussy in return. basic prostitution (not professional, just regular chicks) besides... no one SAW them fuck, so they may have offered to buy her drinks at the local bar and she accepted... knowing that they weren’t going to gat anything from her and she was going to get drunk for free... unless she left with a couple of rapists This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 55 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 214 Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 214 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (214) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Quick! Not me though. // view thread online Post Date: June 18th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Is that seduction or harrassment? It’s harassment, but it’s business. It’s the same as construction workers on the side of the street making comments to chicks passing by. As crude as they are, if they offer her the right thing, they can land that bitch ASAP. The trick is knowing what her price is and being willing to pay it. basic bartering. her pussy for their goods or services :) >I mean it’s got to be piss easy, two onto >one (imagine what they could say if they were both talking at once), but it >sounds like a gross invasion to me & they’re lucky she didn’t call the cops. interesting... what is the policy wherever this event took place as far as how far guys can go to get a chick? are there laws against trying to get laid? >Could you lot run this two on one shit? Would you? >(Or maybe I’m getting soft) it all depends on who you are. I have friends that like that 2 on 1 shit, but I adhere to American comedian Dave Chappelle’s "ONE PENIS PER FANTASY" rule :) I will get with as many chicks as want to come along, that’s why I like bis and lesbos, but leave other dudes out of it :( This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 56 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 215 Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 215 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (215) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I have a little problem on my hand. I’ve been with my girlfriend for >about 3 months. Sex has been great except that she never performs oral >sex on me even tho I perform oral sex on her. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :) OK. that’s all I needed to hear. get naked. put your dick in front of her mouth and tell her to suck it. If she doesn’t, THROW HER ASS OUT OF YOUR HOUSE and dump her. you have already proven yourself a chump by giving her more than she is giving you. >From my conversations with her I really think she is both a little >disgusted about the idea of oral sex on top of the fact that she doesnt >think she can do it right whatever. she fucking OWES you! if she isn’t willing to reciprocate, throw that bitch OUT and get a new chick that is willing to do blowjobs, anal and whatever else you really want to do with this fucking prude you’re with. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 57 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 216 Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 216 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (216) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: I Challenge This Group. // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I know about 100 women who are casual friendly accquaintances of mine. >Scoring any one of them is enough for me. a hundred chicks huh? go to each one of them individually and tell them "suck my dick". if NONE of the HUNDRED chicks you know sucks your dick, invest in prostitution. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 58 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 217 Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 217 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (217) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Do players ever fall in love? // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Subject: Re: Do players ever fall in love? >From: zip***p@ja***.com [ safemail ] (Zipjack) >Date: Sat, 19 June 1999 11:58 AM EDT >Message-id: <376***2@ne***.net [ safemail ] > > >On 19 Jun 1999 01:02:46 GMT, [email protected] (MrSex4uNYC) >wrote: > >Kate wrote: > >>>I think any past attractions I’ve had to players (a few intense ones) >>>had to do with the sense of a freer time that they helped create. > >Mysex wrote: >> >>that’s pretty vague. can you give an example of a freer time for you? did you all catch what she called me just above :) thanks for the credit K :) MrSex4Kate hehehehe >They all reminded me of the friendships i had with guys during high >school. For a short amount of time I felt like i could forget >responsibility, professional pressures, life pressures in general, and >just enjoy discovering what guys were like again. what is wrong with feeling that freedom? >Fortunately for me, I understood the difference between this feeling, >and the reality of being a more experienced person with different >needs. > >Kate what were your needs then when you married your husband? I find it interesting that people can find a release with a certain type of person that is completely pleasureable, yet somehow disregard that and go for something else. I just had this situation happen to me. I really couldn’t give a fuck about a chick enough to argue with her. I just don’t care what she does enough to talk about it. If I don’t LIKE what she did, she’s excommunicated, but that’s a different topic from arguments. This chick I know told me that she NEEDS drama in her relationships. I was astounded. I should have known from these damned talk shows that there are people like this, but I had never met one that - 59 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 217 admitted it until this chick. We are incompatible as far as long-term relationships because she needs something I couldn’t care about her enough to give her... drama and arguments. Now you are saying that you had ops to forget ALL your worries and just get back into enjoying guys for being guys and that’s it? THAT’S GREAT! instead of remaining with this feeling or getting a guy that makes you feel free and keeping him, you apparently made your decision on another set of values, since you are a more experienced person with different needs :) what do you need more than freedom and a love for life and people? This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 60 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 218 Re: Manchester Friday / Post 218 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (218) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Manchester Friday // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >What is Scorpio doing in the Gay >Village, one might ask? Has he finally greased his arse and turned? Oh, no, >no, no, no, no. This is one of the safest places in the city. Dozens of >superb bars, bouncers/security staff everywhere (there were a few ’queer >bashing’ type knifings here a couple of years ago & they’ve really clamped >down) - and the women know it and flock there to such an extent that the >homos are grossly outnumbered at weekends. now THAT’S smart :) incredible surveillance! more security, more chicks, fewer men... great. I had never thought of a move like that, and never will :) however, it reminds me of about a time when I was planning to hang with my wing on a saturday afternoon and he has no cel phone, so I had to meet him so he could SHOP before we hung out. To make matters worse (I can’t stand shopping) he HAD to go to stores in the secondary fag section of manhattan (not the west village). I was pissed, but there was no efficient way around it. first of all, there were CHICKS GALORE! :) all spending money, all looking good, all into making themselves look pretty. mostly pairs of chicks... not dykes, but mostly two chicks together which was perfect since we had two guys :) second of all, there were almost NO guys, and the guys that were around the area were either fags or non-aggressive males. I felt like the proverbial FOX in the hen house :) it was so beautiful. it was like we had signs on us saying we were the only guys in a 10 block radius that were actually going to fuck these women if they asked us to. No competition whatsoever. Plus, since my friend was actually shopping, we got the "same hobby" bonus :) >See two twenty >somethings dancing together (7&8) & shaking it about. OK, fuck how old they >are, I can’t miss this golden opportunity. Let’s try the NYC approach. I get >five feet behind the 8 at about 45 degrees and just stare at her ass. sweet :) good positioning because her friend can see what you are doing, speeding up the time it takes for her to realize you’re checking her out. >Her >friend grins & points to me. The 8 half turns & smiles. I smile, move >forward a little & get side on to her, then to about 30 degrees to her >front, three/four feet away - she’s really pumping it around now with me >looking directly at her crotch and nodding appreciatively. Next thing she >suddenly loses it, gets embarrassed, breaks into a giggling fit and joins >her friend (who’s also giggling like fuck). - 61 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 218 ok, hehe since I did NOT expect you guys to actually go out and do this, I didn’t mention one thing. I do not stare at the chicks until they run screaming from the dance floor :) the point of staring at them is A) because I like watching chicks shake their asses on the dance floor more than whores at strip clubs and B) I am forcing them to make a decision on me. The decision is I accept what he is doing or I do not. If she does not accept it, she can either LEAVE for another section (which happens quite often) or she can TRY to talk me down, which will never work. I will stand there staring at her tits until she SHUTS THE FUCK UP or LEAVES which was her first option to begin with. If OTOH she accepts me standing there staring at her, it’s time for some K action... assuming I am not looking just to look. If I want to fuck her, I will move in on her as soon as she shows a good reaction to my behavior. When I move up she has three choices. Pyhsically attack me, which doesn’t happen because I wait for vibe BEFORE getting within arms distance of a chick. LEAVE, which was her first option to begin with. KEEP DANCING WITH ME... in which case I get as aggressive as I am feeling at the time. You are staring BECAUSE you WANT HER! Not because you like to look at chicks :) what is in your mind is what you are going to do to her once you get that ass alone. >I approach head on, tell the 8 >she’s a nice mover but I can improve it for her, give her some lessons if >she’d like to join me at Rock World. ’Oh we don’t go there.’ ERROR you have the chicks smiling at you AND talking to you and all you could think of is taking them to a DIFFERENT VENUE? FUCK THAT! play your line RIGHT THERE. your friends have to wait until you crash and burn, that’s all there is to it! They rejected the club, not you. Anyway, that’s lateral movement. You can’t do anything to them in that club that you can’t do RIGHT WHERE YOU ARE! If you have to switch venues, do it for a purpose (getting something to eat... she likes drinks from one place, not where you are...) not for no reason at all. >I can’t be >arsed arguing about it, it’s warm & stuffy: nice ass, but bollocks to it, >bale out. huh? for what? what are their names? where are they from? what do they do? what is important to them in a relationship? what are their values? do they fuck men together as a team? what information did you get from them that told you to peel off? all you seem to have done was ask chicks to go somewhere they don’t like to go. you should have stayed where THEY WERE COMFORTABLE and talked your game. >OK, Master Seducers. What did I do wrong? I didn’t have chance to >get Kino & had a coat in one hand and a drink in the other anyhow. oh. that’s what you get for being unprepared. in a club you need to be ready at all times to get as Kino as the chicks will allow IMMEDIATELY! you may not get a second chance if someone else steals your chicks. >Next minute, >one of the barmen appears with a scowl on his face & interrupts. Ah, that’s >why she was stood at the end of the bar (duh!). Fade away discreetly (who’s >a fuckin chicken? barman=staff=bouncer friends=Dan with broken head. No >thanks.) - 62 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 218 nobody would call you a chicken for avoiding ANY fight. you went out that night to FUCK, not to fight. >Right. Room 2. Now Daniel, take this brother, for may it serve you well. hahaha sorry Dan... looks like you’ll NEVER live that shit down man :( that’s the sacrifice you made for helping out the NG with your report :) >I know SS orthodoxy says I >should disarm the obstacles first - but I’m going to look fuckin stupid >moving in on twenty odd yo’s (and don’t say ’well don’t hit on them’: you’re >obviously hitting, albeit subtly, by approaching). So what should I have >done? you KNOW a little LESS than you think :) yes you have to disarm obstacles... SECOND! FIRST... you have to approach the group as a UNIT! walk up to all three of them and say "Ladies". That way you are NOT approaching one in particular. After you greet all of them equally, talk MORE to the 20 year olds than the 30 in order to neg her WHILE disarming obstacles. Once you are in good standing with them, work on her. >Whoosh. ’Why aren’t you dancing?’ ’People our >age have got to be careful dancing. It takes a lot of energy.’ ’Not as much >energy as some things. You look in reasonable shape anyway. Do you want me >to show you a few new steps.’ ’Laughter’ you talk too fast. you should have shut up after saying the great return line "not as much energy as some things". you were obviously referring to sex. you should have shut up and let her respond to that comment. She would either have scoffed at you OR she would have played along and started flirting with you. You covered it up though with more talking. You missed a potential shortcut to a sex discussion after beautifully setting it up. >The 8 tried to join the convo, but Blondie physically blocked >the 8’s access to me: I would have loved her to join in (to disarm), but >Blondie deliberately, in my view, blocked her. first of all it is now too late to disarm anybody. by approaching the target, EVERYONE KNOWS who the target is. forget about obstacles joining in your convo with a target... FORGET ABOUT IT. as far as blocking, chicks love to take men from other chicks. I’m sure the younger chick has flirted with and scored men off of the older one several times. I think she was like "not this time, he’s mine" and intentionally blocked her out so you could take your best shot at laying her. >I ended up, somehow - don’t ask me how >actually getting some kino hand & arm contact, I’ll tell you how, she was interested :( >eventually trying to pull her >towards the dance floor. She didn’t want it, so I relented & went back to X >& Z (who were chuckling). shit. you guys amaze me with lateral and BACKWARDS motion :( WHY do you want to DANCE with a chick you are having an INTIMATE DISCUSSION with. Touching her, talking in her ear because the music is loud... the next step is ISOLATION from her friends and going for the kiss/feel up action... NOT DANCING! what if she can’t dance and didn’t want to look like an idiot? what if she didn’t want to dance WITH YOU but she was willing to talk to or fuck you? assess your - 63 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 218 current position vs desired outcome. don’t move backwards or sideways... to the goal, please. >Blondie’s on the dancefloor, zoom, so is Dan. Got >dancing with her, talked a little more, got K hand arm & eventually got a >full K grip. Strange thing here, this woman was incredibly clumsy (by my >standards). see what I mean? NOW you know why she wouldn’t dance with you before. You had her where you wanted her and let her out! >Next thing is, she’s huffing and puffing & I’m knackering her >with the energy of my dancing - which was basically vertical, clothed >fucking. In the end, she asks me to stop. ’Am I too much for you?’ I ask. >She nods - so I withdraw gracefully. withdraw? because? from intimate conversation to vertical, clothed fucking to NOTHING? did you figure she danced like that with every guy in the place? I really don’t understand. you made some great, bold moves then fumbled repeatedly on the follow-ups. better luck next time... good post though. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 64 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: girlfriends sister / Post 219 Re: girlfriends sister / Post 219 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (219) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: girlfriends sister // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I need help seducing my girlfriends sister. She is already attracted to >me,and that is a fact. The relationship between my girl and her is very >shaky, that is a critical reason that I even think that this is possible. >Does anyone have any experiences with this? Any good patterns? She is also >4 years younger. Any help is greatly appreciated. > >kenny you should use the infamous "Jack Daniels" pattern :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 65 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 220 Re: Manchester Friday / Post 220 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (220) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Manchester Friday // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I also sometimes work against myself by putting a well developed situation >with >a girl back into its initial stages, i do not do it intentionally, i think i >do >it because i actually have some kind of fucked up idea that it is a nice >thing >to do not too rush things and that a girl will appreciate me taking it easy >with >her. that is not exactly a "fucked up" idea. it is the WRONG idea for getting laid fast. it is the RIGHT idea for a chick that you are interested in as a person and you don’t care how long it takes you to fuck her. you still run the risk of falling in the LJBF zone, but a prolonged courtship makes the difference with some chicks. You have to elicit her values and if she is that type, then you have to decide IF she is worth it. basically, you take the long road with her while you fuck other chicks quickly. by the time she comes around, she should be really good for you. the only other problem with the long time approach is that these type of chicks are rarely sexual fantasies because they aren’t that interested in sex to begin with or they would be looking for a steady man ASAP. when you finally get her, she may bore you to hell and you will probably dump her quick for the action-type chicks that you have been screwing all along. however, if you want her as the "wife" type and you don’t mind cheating on her, you have the best of both worlds. you can continue fucking behind her back the same way you did while you were waiting for her to come around. >Even though the setting and the very reason why i went to the club are >in >direct contrast. very good point. people go to bars to meet other people and to PU. chicks know this already so if you come with a WEAK attempt, you won’t get much credit. >This is like telling a girl i want to be in the LJBF >category >and that you are scared of your sex drive and that you are very supplicating. exactly. >NYC, basically has mastered this because he is always able to assess exactly >what needs to be done and he seems to only move in the direction of the >bedroom. - 66 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 220 yes. I cannot assess EXACTLY, but I always have a general idea of how much I can get away with. sometimes I over-do it and have to mend the position. sometimes I "under-do" it and realize that I have wasted time and words, OR that I have missed an op :( however, I am always prepared to change my game to the most efficient tactics to get her fucking and sucking ASAP. >This I believe is not as easy as it sounds. No. not at all. After I got into this mental seduction stuff, I realized that ALL I had to say to chicks was FLUFF! EVERYTHING I SAID WAS FLUFF! Even what I was saying that was sexual was not being used correctly. I didn’t know to look for / push her into meta-states... One day I realized that talking was fucking me up MORE than helping me :( I do most of my connecting through eye contact. by the time I talk to a chick I have a general idea of whether she dislikes me, doesn’t care, or is hoping that I will talk to her. since my ENTIRE use for chicks is entertainment, mostly for feeling them and seeing them, I would move into sex discussions IMMEDIATELY. They would either get with it or not. Talking was merely to set up "are we getting together" and "when are we getting together". My eyes and body language and proximity and tonality and aura would tell them what I was going to do to them, so I never had to describe it. That’s why to this day I am not good at phone sex :) My tonality is horrible and I don’t even believe what I am talking about. "A" is just NOT where it’s at for me sexually :) All my other conversation was FLUFF to get them to stay around while I tried to get my hands on them and stimulate them into being horny an fucking. The problem is that I was talking about nothing and sabotaging the progress I had already made on her. Once I learned how powerful words are, I started paying attention to what I was thinking about saying, then asking myself "ok, if I said that, how does that help me?" Unfortunately, most of the time, I realized it wouldn’t help me to do ANYTHING. Many times I would say stuff that would plant NEGATIVE thoughts in her mind when you want to keep her positive! Initially I shut up. There were really long pauses before I said anything because I had to evaluate everything first. Eventually I became more comfortable with embedded commands and more tolerant of screwing up and fixing it instead of avoiding screwups. Now, as soon as I meta-state because of an HB I automatically start calculating. I break the meta-state, decide what I want from her (based on her body parts), decide if this is a target or a pivot, search her person for something to talk to her about besides her looks, and prepare anything else relevant at the time, then go in. Many times the prep is for nothing because NYC is a cold place... emotionally. Too many people being mean to each other :) Lots of times chicks pass by clearly having heard you and don’t say anything at all. sometimes you get a subdued "hello" and a slight smile. sometimes you hit the jackpot, but if you do, you already know where you are going and that you need to elicit values quickly and demonstrate personality quickly... after you do enough field work, it becomes formua to a degree, and you get relaxed in the knowledge that you will shut up and keep her talking until you hear something that lets you veer her down the right road :) >Common mistakes i still find myself making is talking to fast.... right. talk to get a response from her.. not just to say shit. her response signals shortcuts. >smiling too much.... - 67 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Manchester Friday / Post 220 nothing wrong with smiling. just make sure you demonstrate somehow that you are a MAN. smile all you want, but if she thinks you are a harmless AFC, that’s how you will be treated the ENTIRE relationship until you try to break out of LJBF mode. >fucking up K... very important. practice K on UGs if you have to :( if a woman detects that you can’t handle her correctly in the street, why should she take you home and see what you can do in private? >saying things that are totally useless in my plan to >get laid.... not just useless, often self-destructive :( >Just not thinking enough about satisfying my needs at all... right. you are looking for a chick that looks good AND knows how to and desires to please a man. the desires to please a man part is what you have to create in her and if it’s already there, all you have to do is demonstrate to her that you are THAT MAN. >Basically its like i am trying to make the girl happy at my own sexual >expense... yup. BTW... the last set was GENERAL comments to the entire NG! NOT focused on Daniel BY ANY MEANS! Daniel sarges a lot and is getting better all the time while some people continuously ask STUPID, VAGUE questions and refuse to do the field work :( This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 68 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: My First Try / Post 221 Re: My First Try / Post 221 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (221) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: My First Try // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Subject: Re: My First Try >From: "Mystery" <mys***y@id***.com [ safemail ] > >Date: Sun, 20 June 1999 07:33 AM EDT >Message-id: <376***c@ne***.com [ safemail ] > > >your argumental error stems from the slippery slope error. What does that mean? >Erik Krueger wrote in message <376***2@gl***.net [ safemail ] >... >> >> >>Avi Lu wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> I’m new at SS and this is my first try creating a pattern. I named it >"R&B >>> pattern": >>> >>> After some fluff talk about music in general... >>> >>> You: You know how sometimes certain music can really TOUCH YOU DEEPLY. >Like >>> my friend Jen was talking about how once it was late at night, and she >was >>> driving all by herself on the freeway. She had her radio on and they were >>> playing R&B songs. And all of a sudden, she could just FEEL A RUSH in her >>> heart, and her STOMACH HURT a little, and she started to FEEL SO LONELY >and >>> CRAVE someone, a person she could only dream to be with, to appear and >HOLD >>> her and to COMFORT her and even pull over and CUDDLE...even if it’s just >for >>> 10 minutes...It’s the idea of TOTAL SATISFACTION and SECURITY to be with >>> this person of her dreams that FASCINATES her. She knew it’s unreal to >>> CONTINUE TO PICTURE THAT but don’t you wish that could JUST HAPPEN TO >>> YOU.....WITH ME...NOW, I feel that’s what FANTASIES are all about... >>> >>> Please feel free to correct it :) Thanks. >>> Avi >>> >>> -- - 69 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: My First Try / Post 221 >>> >>> Hi from Vancouver. >>> http://www.geocities.com/vienna/2045/ >>> ICQ:2293440 >> >>once u say this pattern, just like the others, to an HB, what do u think is >>gonna happen ? >>simply NOTHING. >> >>One thing that doesnt quite make sense is ross’ statement "whatever u can >get >>her to imagine ..... will come true (or something like that)". And after, >he >>says to his students "Now doesnt that make sense ?", and everyone is like >"yeah >>it does". But wait a second ... was there a time when u saw this really >ugly or >>disgusting chick and you imagined what its like to bang her ? >>Well i certainly have had this ( and lots ) type of experience, but the >fact >>that i "imagined or she lead my imagination in such a way" will not under >any >>circumstances become a REALITY. >> >>So in a sense do patterns or SS work ? well, i’ll let u guys decide this >one >>Btw, if someone ran a pattern on me (even if i didnt know SS existed), >because >>its being said in a slower or suggestive way, i would pick up on the fact >that >>she is trying to seduce me (and it wouldnt work if i wouldnt find her >>attractive. If she is, it would work with or without patterns), WOUDLNT YOU >? >>So, when u go out sargin and running patterns on hb’s, REMEMBER THIS, that >she >>will pick that up. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 70 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 222 Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 222 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (222) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Quick! Not me though. // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Well, it’s a fact that we don’t know what happened next, BUT ... >remembering what you keep saying and advocating ... > >Need I remind you? That’s to say, to appear as a MAN, with desires, >etc ... she knows what she’s up to when she leaves with them! right. exactly. all I was saying was SHE could have been playing THEM. let’s presuppose that they offered her sex with both of them. something changed her mind along the way OR she was with it from the beginning and holding out for the most she could get from them. Let’s say the 5th thing the guy told her was that she could ride in his Porche, and that she’s never been in a porsche before. That might have been enough incentive for her to leave with them figuring that she would get to ride in the car then just get out without giving up sex. possible, but stupid and dangerous. I have seen enough situations where guys have left parties with chicks and CLAIMED to have fucked them, and when the truth came out, they didn’t :( all I am saying is that without hearing the conversation, we don’t know if they offered to take her out for drinks of home to fuck, and without seeing them enter a home or hotel or even a dark alley :) we can’t be sure that the guys were successful in fucking her. good point though. she KNEW what they wanted, definitely. >My wingman did’nt hear what they said, but that was obviously >a typical ’racaille’ sexual approach. Therefore, if she leaves >with them, she has to be really really really insane not to realize >what’s supposed to happen next. yep. >As for bribing ... well, I trust you on that but I have zero >experience in that respect, so I don’t really understand what >you’re talking about. basic NLP calls for creating a win-win situation. you would think that win-win in sex is you orgasm and she orgasms. the wins do NOT have to come in the same denominations though. there can be apples for you and oranges for her. therefore it is hypothetically possible to meet a chick looking in a dress store window that cannot afford the dress she is looking at. if you can get the chick to BELIEVE that you buying her that dress is a win for her equivalent to or greater than fucking and sucking you all night, you can get her. most chicks that enjoy sex anyway have their price. some sell for a man with a good body. some sell for a cute guy. some sell for blond hair. some sell for businessmen. some sell for getting hair and nails done. some sell for the - 71 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 222 world-famous "dinner and a movie"... I think those guys were throwing different options at her for wins. I think at first she was holding out for something better, then they finally hit her with the "I have a penthouse suite at the best hotel here... want to try my hot tub?" or something she could not or would not get/do for herself, then she went for it. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 72 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 223 Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 223 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (223) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I tried to e-mail you at mrs***c@ao***.com [ safemail ] . Is this your address? It >came bouncing back. Have you blocked all yahoo addresses? Please let me >know how I can contact you. > >Joe Roppongi I don’t use that account for email. yes... it is possible that incoming email is blocked. that is a feature of AOL. I monitor the NG every day, so just post and I will see it. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 73 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 224 Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 224 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (224) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I knew a guy once and overheard him telling another guy about a girl >friend of his who would not blow him. When she refused he simply >shrugged his sholders and told her not to worry about it. He would find >a woman on the side to give him blow jobs. She blew him immediately. good point. use it or lose it! This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 74 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 225 Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 225 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (225) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: I Challenge This Group. // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Ok, So I ask each of the 100 chicks individually to suck my dick. >SOMEHOW I don’t think that’s going to work. Only three of them are full >time sluts. Three others are part time sluts when drunk. how pathetic is that that you know 100 chicks and DON’T BELIEVE that ONE of them will suck your dick :( I don’t know ANYWHERE NEAR 100 CHICKS! except of course that’s because I discard them when they are no longer of use to me. WHY do you know 100 chicks? where did you meet them? under what pretense? I don’t understand your position. and now you have said 6 of them will do anything with any guy when drunk? I think you are leaving out some vital information here. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 75 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 226 Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 226 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (226) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Mystery’s insight // view thread online Post Date: June 19th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >This whole post is a pretty rare thing to see on A.S.F...or at least as >far as I can tell. I wrote something similar many many months ago and >was flamed pretty good for it. In any event, I agree with you >wholeheartedly. Totally. thanks IX :) I will search your posting history on deja because I would like to read your series. if you can remember, please post the thread name in case I can’t find it. >To my way of thinking, seduction is attracting women who are classy, >decent, and who are waiting for the right man to make their move. It’s >not sticking your dick into some drunk slut who crawled out of the >gutter for a night on the town. I don’t know why people try to pass >that off as being "seduction". precisely. there is a complete difference between seducing a chick and finding one that wants to get fucked, as you stated in your post. for instance, look at the latest Maniac High post. that was a really good, persistant night of sarging! when did he and smooth get on though? when they FINALLY landed on tow chicks that WANTED TO GET FUCKED BEFORE THEY MET MANIAC AND SMOOTH! that’s all there is to it. they hung in there through some good wins and many defeats, and finally hit paydirt. I will admit that Maniac used his K skills and dancing and generally knowing how to get a girl wet and horny to "seduce" her. but her mind was already made up when she got there that any guy that she liked that got her that way could fuck her that night. not to take ANY credit from Maniac, since he got what he went out to get and got more numbers to boot, but that was not a seduction IMO, that was good sarging. >I support Mystery 100% because he >clearly states what he wants and he gets it. I think that’s highly >admirable. But I’m not going to jump in and say he’s the master at >seduction, because I don’t think he is. Yes, kissing a girl 10 minutes >after you meet her is more than most guys can do, but is it really a >demonstration of TRUE seduction skills? Or is it just talking to every >girl you can until you find one who’s willing to do that? I’m not sure. same situation. I have learned invaluable information in sarging from Maniac’s tactics. I agree that what he does is sarging, not seduction. even in his latest post about toronto, he did not "seduce" the warpig. she was desperate and he knew how to get her to suck his dick and bend over for him. he used his skills to get what he went out that night to get, but IMO that was NOT a seduction either. >For me, seduction implies more than just a >connection between two people who want to fuck. It’s not getting a girl - 76 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 226 >all wet because you told her a witty joke. It’s getting into her head >and making her see you as the ideal man, and connecting to her >character qualities, getting her to connect to your dreams and goals. >Then channeling all that into one big erotic point of light aimed at >yourself. I agree again. I am into the mind-bending applications of SS. I want to take women that are not thinking about having sex at all and make them WANT to fuck! I want to do the work necessary to land chicks that I really like. I have had access to sluts my entire life. the sex is fun, but getting them is boring, routine. I could do all of that BEFORE SS. I think seduction is taking a situation where you have the right woman and the wrong mental state, and creating the right mental state and desire in her to be with you. >My goal is to get sex from girls who won’t give it up for just any guy. precisely :) )>It’s the basic difference between FINDING a girl who >ALREADY WANTS TO FUCK and GETTING A GIRL TO WANT TO FUCK. I prefer the >second. > >-IX This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 77 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 227 Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 227 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (227) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I enjoy your many posts to a.s.f. The one on picking up women on trains >was a gem. > >You and I have at least one thing in common: we live in Tokyo and speak >some Japanese. I have also been thinking for a while about taking >dancing lessons. Would you be able to recommend a place in Tokyo where >I can do this? I am a terrible dancer and I’m afraid that I don’t have >any sense of rhythm at all. What type of dance do you think comes in >most handy for the purpose of PU? And what discos / bars, for that >matter? > >I was going to include some info on myself but I am not going to trumpet >it out on Usenet, of course. > >Thankful for any response, > >Joe Roppongi say joe :) I think you MISREAD quotations on a few posts. MANIAC HIGH is the one that live in Japan, not me :) someone else came up with the read-a-book-on-the-train technique. all I do is respond to posts from the guys out there in Japan... why do you think NYC is in my screen name? :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 78 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 228 Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 228 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (228) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Mystery’s insight // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com I assume you were directly talking to IX in your comments, but I have a couple of statements about your remarks. >Because you qualified your comments with what is your personal >preference i can’t see you getting flamed. But let me tell you >something, if you get some chick to fuck you then you did win over >whoever is in the bar with you. exactly. we are not saying that it is not a win and not a feat that was accomplished fucking a chick from a bar. It is definitely a win for the fucker. however, it is NOT a seduction IMO. he just happened to be the first or the most effective or the most attractive or the best. it is a big deal, but has more to do with correct chick selection than demonstrating personality and value to make her choose YOU for any other reason than you have a dick and want to stick it in her. >Don’t think that some chick who gives >it out every Fri in the bar isn’t going to be reasonably picky, and she >picked you. So for the night or hour you are the guy. Just wear a condom >. As for getting kissed in the first 10 min, it’s irrelevant. I agree. I kiss women UPON MEETING THEM... immediately. You could >be dealing with european girls to whom kissing is Hi and Goodbye. I get >lot’s of hugs and kisses and think nothing of it unless i get tongue >then i REALLY need to evaluate what i am getting into.Do i or don’t i >want it. then the issue is that if you haven’t demonstrated personality or value out of the ordinary, then she would have tongued down any ORDINARY guy just like she did to you... matter of fact, there’s no telling what she was doing ten minutes before kissing you... she MAY have been sucking dick! This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 79 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: BoJonn Seduction Concepts (amended/Beautiful Women) / Post 229 Re: BoJonn Seduction Concepts (amended/Beautiful Women) / Post 229 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (229) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: BoJonn Seduction Concepts (amended/Beautiful Women) // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Another factor is that such a woman, who has had so much attention from men >throughout her life, gets used to the idea of being seen as a goddess and any >general remark about the appeal of her physical beauty from a man is almost >meaningless from the standpoint of the woman. yes. that’s why I never come on to chicks at all until they bring up the subject of sex AND give signs that they are interested in ME. it is useless. it is like telling a dog it is a dog... you don’t GET ANYWHERE by doing it :) >Much of the compliments and >praise an attractive woman receives in her younger years and throughout her >life, are plainly superficial. There is little praise or reinforcement given >to the true core of her being. What follows is a woman who believes that her >primary value is her looks but who is also empty at the core. that is a very interesting and important point. I always attracted chicks via aura and personality... but after I started bodybuilding, ALL OF A SUDDEN all these chicks that didn’t want to meet me were highly attentive :) the EXACT SAME chicks that used to ignore me NOW wanted to hang out with me. IF I hadn’t had any attention paid to me BEFORE bodybuilding and DID receive it after, I would have determined that my ONLY attractive/valuable quality was my body. Knowing that I will not be able to maintain my shape FOREVER, I would be very protective of my status and out to get whatever I can get before my looks run out. It would be a very shaky foundation. I can see what you mean for a woman that has NEVER gotten any compliments EXCEPT for her looks... and most of the ways guys give compliments... they’re not really compliments anyway :) >The second group are the women who will allow themselves to be used as a >piece >of meat by any man who has enough confidence to take them. it really is surprising how many FINE women are actually lonely. the guys that feel like they can talk to them only want them for prizes, to hang on their arms and make the guys look good.. and of course to suck a good dick every day :) they totally miss out on guys with actual personalities that can make them feel good or laugh because those guys figure they have NO CHANCE at all to fuck these chicks, so they don’t try. I suggest befriending these chicks either for use as pivots or for SSing once you get in their good graces :) - 80 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: BoJonn Seduction Concepts (amended/Beautiful Women) / Post 229 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 81 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: The Potentials of Bodybuilding / Post 230 Re: The Potentials of Bodybuilding / Post 230 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (230) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: The Potentials of Bodybuilding // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >about 6 months ago I began a bodybuilding >program and lost nearly 20 pounds of fat while adding muscle at the same >time. >I look alot different(better,in my opinion) as a result, although I am still >shy and nervous around women. How much potential do you think bodybuilding >has >to make a person more attractive to women and succesful with them? Could a >shy, >inhibited person with six-pack abs be extremely succesful with women despite >the lack of confidence and the shy personality? yes... and no. there are some women who get horny from bodies, just like men do. for THESE women, a better body gives you an entirely new level of access to them. they will seek you out. they will be smiling at you BEFORE you even see them. you will catch them admiring your body... etc. etc. it also makes a difference with women that equate physical strength with security. it also makes a difference with women that equate a healthy, attractive body with an overall healthy view of life in general. with women that get theirs from faces and personality traits like humor or honesty or confidence, it makes no difference at all... unless of course, your new body GIVES YOU new confidence. The NO part of it is that your body ONLY gets you the interview. Because they are attracted to you physically and want to feel your body rubbing against theirs, they will listen to what you have to say. Unless you are REALLY BUILT and they want you regardless, you can easily fumble if you don’t know what you’re doing OR you display a lack of confidence. Lack of confidence = lack of ability. It will get you many more looks and women will be much more likely to respond to you favorably, since they can SEE that you have something that they want (your body), but YOU have to close the deal! This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 82 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 231 Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 231 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (231) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: I Challenge This Group. // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I CAN’T walk once around the block without some girl or group of girls >calling out my name and waving. But we are friendly accquantances. >NOTHING MORE. OH GOD! unless you are really young, this is ridiculous... I mean I believe everything you posted, but so much opportunity and no dates? Can ANYBODY tall me which GREEK TRAGEDY this resembles exactly? :) There MUST be one :) PS - in light of the new facts, FORGET ABOUT WHAT I TOLD YO TO DO! all these people know each other. as soon as you start talling chicks to suck your dick it’s going to get around that you’re a perv and that’s it for your rep in boonies, USA. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 83 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 232 Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 232 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (232) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com << Dear Charles, Try to make a pleasureable fixation on her mouth. Every time she has an orgasm put your finger on or in her mouth (during the orgasm). It worked for me great when I was starting to explore all the ways one can do it (especially backdoor, hands are there anyway ;-) ) >> NICE ONE EUGENE :) I hadn’t considered doing this, but it’s a great idea. take already pleasurable senstions and anchor them to her having something in her mouth :) I suppose this would work in other situations too, like if she has a lollipop or something that she’s sucking on, stimulate her physically as a REWARD for sucking on it and don’t stumulate her when it’s not in her mouth :) I will try this out! This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 84 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: How to transform From Average Friendly Chump to M... / Post 233 Re: How to transform From Average Friendly Chump to M... / Post 233 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (233) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: How to transform From Average Friendly Chump to Master PU Artist in // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com << Plus the main thing is dont even think about yourself when you are out there in the field.. >> definitely Dan. think about yourself when you are preparing to go out. after that, FAHGHEDDABOUDDIT! it’s useless to think of yourself. your opinion of your looks or desireability has nothing to do with her opinion of YOUR looks or desireability. << Internal dialogue before approach is your worst enemy, it can be useful during the pu when u need to take several vital seconds to figure out the next move, but generally i find that it works against you. >> I had that problem until I started setting my own frames. I also had the problem with meta-stating and STAYING THERE in the presence of a fine woman... ANY fine woman :) NOW I have it under control. I have some sort of fail-safe built in where I meta for a couple of seconds, then something snaps me out of it, sets a good frame, and gets ready to do the flyby and counts down to the approach. It took a while, but my progress was accelerated since I live in NYC and pass hundreds of women (not good looking women, but practiceable women still) every day. I practiced breaking my meta-state first, then figured out what to do with all the free time that created before actual contact with the chick. Not breaking that state (for me at least) is like trying to pick up women while sleeping :) I mean I have done that too, but it was them that came after me, not something I said or did that got me the business :) << PU masters dont give a shit about themselves all they care about is what needs to be done so that the woman will give a shit about them. I hope that makes some sense. >> right. to be the most effective, you actually are better off FORGETTING who you are. identity is a limiting belief. if you can discard your true identity, you can make yourself who you need to be at all times. who you need to be changes DURING discussions, so don’t be afraid to change with her flow to always be THAT MAN that she eventually wants inside her. Just be prepared if she challenges you on your NEW stance. be prepared to explain how in some circumstances you are the person before and others you are the person you just described :) - 85 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: How to transform From Average Friendly Chump to M... / Post 233 This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 86 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 234 Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 234 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (234) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com << Oh. I see. I guess I’ll send a note to High Maniac & the Gang then. Sorry to have bothered you. Joe >> no bother at all Joe... we’re all learning here together :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 87 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: NYC, why not go to dance floor? / Post 235 Re: NYC, why not go to dance floor? / Post 235 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (235) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: NYC, why not go to dance floor? // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com << NYC, in one of your posts, (maybe one of gregs?), You refer to a situation where he is sitting, talking to a chick, getting good results, and he decides to take her to the dance floor. You didn’t like this and said it was moving away from the goal/ sideways or something with regard to the final goal of fucking her. But why? If you take her to the dance floor, you can get real kino, put your hands all over her ass, and chest, and tongue her and stuff that is harder to do when sitting down talking. I’d like further clarification of what you meant, and why taking a chick to the dance floor after you are sitting talking with her would be a sideways or backwards move. Thanks; Maniac >> excellent question Maniac :) in THAT particular case, I didn’t like the move to the dance floor. in general, you are right. dancing is good because you can feel her up and stimulate her manually without people being aware of wht you are doing. you can have her ready to fuck right there on the floor. let’s presuppose that whomever posted that scenario wanted to get the chick back to his room and in his bed. I submit that you want to use your MOST EFFICIENT technique to achieve your desired outcome :) I personally can dance. I DON’T dance, but I CAN. if I take a chick out on the dance floor, I can turn her on completely. i have done it repeatedly. it is a FACT. I KNOW that if she lets me dance with her the way I want to, I will get her horny. All chicks FINE or ugly have the same physiology, and I know how to work her equipment :) actually by then, I would have elicited what she likes to have done to her and I would concentrate on what she already TOLD me to do to her :) OTOH, what I can do to her has NOTHING to do with DANCING! I can do the same thing to her on a couch, in a car... it makes no difference WHERE I do it. Dancing with her is a COPOUT EXCUSE for feeling her up. Was my desired outcome to DANCE with a girl that I like? or was it to FUCk a girl that I like? If dancing is the ONLY WAY she will let me feel her up, then I might do that. - 88 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: NYC, why not go to dance floor? / Post 235 This is all in the physical realm though and has nothing to do with SS. If you are NOT secure in your dancing skills making a chick want to fuck you, DO NOT BOTHER DANCING! you are in a better position TALKING SS to her than dancing. That’s why in that scenario it is a lateral at least and probably backwards move to dance with her. It’s like changing venues from the coffee house to the restaurant. you have no idea what can change if you move her from where you HAVE HER ALREADY to the dance floor. If she wants to dance, then fine, you may have to go along with it, but I say assess your position and your skills. Sure you can cop feels off of her and maybe kiss her on the dance floor. Is that your desierd outcome? if so, congratulations, you did it :) it is really tough to give opinions without actually being in a situation. I have been in MOST of the situations I’ve read about here, and a lot wackier and harder to decipher situations to boot. there is no CONCRETE "do not take her back on the dance floor" all there is is "do what needs to be done and be who you need to be in order to effectively progress toward the desired outcome. the other thing is don’t think of PU as a direct, by-the-numbers thing, it isn’t. hang in there until you get a major break, then skip way ahead in the progrm. it’s like a CD. sometimes the CD skips and you are suddenly at the end of the song. If you know what you are doing and what signs she is giving off (which comes from field work) you can see how to SKIP the CD yourself. You will see in her eyes sometimes that she wishes you would kiss her. Her body will contort and she will instinctively grab you while you are talking softly in her ear, basically blowing in it. she will turn around backwayds and rub her ass on your dick with no prompting from you at all. catch the signs and make the detours! you do NOT have to go from talking to dancing to kissing to bed... it might be dancing to talking to kissing to bed. it might be talking to kissing to bed (no dancing at all)... it might be coffee to spaghetti to bed This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 89 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 236 Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 236 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (236) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Mystery’s insight // view thread online Post Date: June 20th, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >I personally would like to meet ALOT more woman who just want a one >night stand. I’m so tired of the emotional baggage I carry as a result >of dealing with more involved woman. It seems those one night woman >grab some big tall strong guy and kick him out in the morning. I try >to seduce em and they are like; "NEXT guy!" I’d really like to have >the skills to deal with woman like this. I really want to nail some of >the so-called easy ones. >I’d like to have a leg up on the the guy whos >6’ 2’ and a killer bod and smile. HAHAHAHA hey Greg... careful with your SS now buddy :) I’d love having more one night >stands - these nice girls are killing me!!! there IS ALOT of seduction >skill involved with them for me because I rarely score with them. I >need those skills. interesting last point you made there. there is a lot of seduction skill in seducing FAST chicks... hmm... The seduction skill is really the same, but on an accelerated pattern. The chick has to KNOW that YO will FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF HER RIGHT NOW if she lets you... fuck that... if she TURNS HER BACK TO YOU! :) There is no room for apologizing for being a MAN attracted to a WOMAN. There is no room for excessive fluff. FAST chicks want FAST guys. That’s what I was telling somebody, probably Maniac about assessing what she wants before opening your big mouth and telling her who you are. If she is looking for a quick fuck, find out FIRST, then let her know that A) all you want is a quick fuck and B) you do it all the time so C) you know how to ROCK HER and then D) put the Kino moves on her to get her wet without even touching the important parts, and she’s yours. FAST chicks can spot a bullshitter, because he isn’t as aggressive as FAST guys. With your Mr. Nice Guy style or attitude or whatever it is... I don’t believe that they BELIEVE YOU ARE THE MAN FOR THE JOB. Prove them wrong! as far as wanting more one-night-stands, the grass is always greener on the other side :) just about ALL I get is one-nighters. that is because I do NOT present myself as any type of viable "love interest". a chick would be a fool to fall in love with me because I don’t care about her as a person. she would be throwing her emotions away on me. I FUCK... I don’t make love. I like women for their bodies and looks, anything else is icing on the cake. I will fuck the chick I am hanging out with, her sister, AND her mother if they all look good and let me at it. Mostly what happens to me is the chick sees me as - 90 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 236 an interesting guy that she PROBABLY won’t get another chance at being with because she met me by accident, and I don’t FREQUENT places. Her window of opportunity is closing as the night wears on. I think chicks screw me just as some wacko thing to do one night. Also, I tend to meet chicks on their way to being drunk, so that helps a lot too :) I am especially lethal now that I can push their states around. I could always make them laugh and have a good time and get the K started, but now I can get them hot without even touching them, making THEM want ME while I just sit there looking at them heating up. The next morning though, I think they realize that it’s just a matter of time (short) before I am bored with them, so they cut me off before I can cut them off. Or, like Maniac said, I don’t remember their names, or didn’t ask for their numbers... The net result though is that you KEEP STARTING OVER! It’s nice to have new chicks, but now I want to get some that I actually LIKE as opposed to just wanting to fuck them. I want to make a harem of Friendly Foxes more than I want the repetitive one-nighter. The grass is always greener huh? :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 91 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: A magic word. / Post 237 Re: A magic word. / Post 237 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (237) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: A magic word. // view thread online Post Date: June 21st, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >guys, I think you know women >well enough to realize that you will NEVER get anywhere with a woman, >or her friends, or her friend’s friends if you’ve been known to call >her a fat cow, even in jest. HA! Kate my love :) If you weren’t married, I would get you as horny as possible then whisper "fat cow" in your ear repeatedly while I fuck you to multiple orgasms :) I would anchor the phrase to such pleasureable feelings that you would actually smile when anyone called you a fat cow in the street... ESPECIALLY ME! >:) Thanks to Eugene for the idea from his post earlier today :) >Well, its frustrating to be assigned "Gatekeeper of sexuality" status >when we are just as interested in sex as men are. yeah... that sucks a big, thick one. bring back the caveman days when all we needed to get some sex was a CLUB :) >Imagine our impossible dilemma. >If we enjoy our bodies, thier natural sensuality and joy, we are cast >out from the kingdom. We are SLUTS. That is true GENERALLY in our society, but I think the difference between SLUTS and WOMEN THAT LIKE TO FUCK is FREE WILL. >The truth is though, a truly cool guy will continue to develop a >friendship wtih a woman after she sleeps with him, no matter when in >the relationship it was. I guess. the problem is that men and women meet each other to FUCK, not to become friends. If you accidentally become friends with a chick and then fuck her, the sex has NO BEARING on the friendship. I mean it can if people act differently towards each other afterwards, but it really makes no difference. Why it falls apart after sex is that MEN FAKE BEING FRIENDS WITH YOU TO FUCK YOU. I make friends first, then fuck so I don’t have any problems with this issue. The only problem is if I think she was a boring lay and she wants to do it again HAHAHAHAHA nope! >When you use someone you miss out on everything they are for real. > > >Kate (whose never used a guy for money.) - 92 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: A magic word. / Post 237 That’s true, except when you ALWAYS use women, you don’t realize that. Ignorance is bliss :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 93 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 238 Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 238 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (238) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: Do players ever fall in love? // view thread online Post Date: June 21st, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >>Mysex wrote: >>> >>>that’s pretty vague. can you give an example of a freer time for you? > >did you all catch what she called me just above :) thanks for the >credit K :) > >DOH! hehe :) >Nothing is wrong with the feeling, but acting on it as a committed >person is foolish when it violates the vows between one and one’s >spouse. I agree. I was not saying it in that context. I was saying it in the general context of a SINGLE woman that can have fun and fantasy all at the same time and tosses it to get into a relationship that fulfills some sort of "more mature" needs. I think that’s full of shit. You can be as fun-loving as your life will allow. >I needed to wake up next to my best friend for the rest of my life. I >wanted to be with him for his excellent sense of humor, amazing mind, >kindnessetc. that’s what it’s really all about. compatibility and who it is that makes your life BETTER every day. However, I can get that without MARRYING a chick... I just get a female best friend... which brings me back to my favorite women... LESBOS :) guys, have you ever hung out with a chick that was more aggressive going after chicks than you were? hehe I have :) >I know how you guys hate dry spells. I was intrigued by the thread >about sleeping with butt-ugly women. facial beauty has NOTHING to do with RAW SEXUAL ATTRACTION! now if the thread is sleeping with women that you are not physically attracted to, I would like to hear some techniques on how guys pulled this off :) >Most women would prefer the dry spell over sleeping with someone who >made them gag. I’ll make you gag... and you’ll like it too :) >Its not possible to have total freedom and an incredibly deep bond at >the same timenot for me, anyway. - 94 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 238 WOW! that was a mind-blower. I think I now understand something about women (really people in general) that is really fucked up. Some people can not enjoy their freedom. Some people have to have regulations or drama or hardship of some kind. Some people don’t BELIEVE that they DESERVE to live a really fun, happy, free life :( I am free with women that I know and I am also deeply connected to them. When I am with them I am in love with them. that will NOT stop me from being in love with the next woman I meet also. hmm.. guess I’m just lucky that way... word for the day is: polyamorous >So you see, guys, I really did go for substance, and I >knew I’d never find a man like mine again. see that... DEMONSTRATE PERSONALITY... the chicks come after you... ask for YOUR number... make dates to see YOU... make yourself unique in their eyes and that’s all she wrote :) This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 95 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: For FUCK’S Sake / Post 239 Re: For FUCK’S Sake / Post 239 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (239) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: For FUCK’S Sake // view thread online Post Date: June 21st, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >Conclusions: >a) this guy, affable as he is, will never, ever be my Wing >b) I’ll be v careful in trying to recruit another Dan, this brings up something I found interesting in the group. people apparently RANDOMLY SELECT wingmen :) hahahahahaha I have friends that are TOTAL LIABILITIES for getting chicks. They actually make it MORE DIFFICULT to snag chicks :) the wingman position is very important. all you need is ONE remark from your wing to the HB’s friend he’s SUPPOSED to be distracting, and she will jet out of there pulling YOURS in tow. I will not sarge with some of my FRIENDS, let alone a total stranger that could be a head case, murderer or rapist :( Look at what this guy did, talking so much... what happens when you take him with you sarging then he comes back to the bar when you’re not there and spills the beans on how you connived these chicks into fucking and sucking you? all of a sudden everyone’s looking at you funny in your favorite bar :) HAHAHA your wing is a TOTAL reflection on you... guilt by association. make GOOD choices of wings. This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 96 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: How many of you consider yourselves users? / Post 240 Re: How many of you consider yourselves users? / Post 240 Database fetch via The Archive at FastSeduction.com (via Archive Builder v2.0) %> Query for author: match: [attribute] "MrSex4uNYC" (240) ... » view this article on FastSeduction.com « (to be able to select & copy text) The Archive sponsored by The Art of the Pickup ® "You can read ... or you can WATCH." Subject: Re: How many of you consider yourselves users? // view thread online Post Date: June 21st, 1999 09:00:00 PM (EDT) Group/Board: alt.seduction.fast Article Author: "MrSex4uNYC" (if mis-matched to this archive, contact [email protected]) Find recent posts by "MrSex4uNYC" on mASF // contact "MrSex4uNYC" Email links in posts are protected using the Safemail system via FastSeduction.com >How could you find someone appealing enough to have sex with, but not >appealing enough to treat humanely? It all depends on what you mean by "treat humanely" I would NEVER advocate domestic violence or getting chicks pregnant and not paying for the abortion or having kids then abandoning them and their mother... however... the things that make a man want to have sex with a woman are NOT the same things that makes him LIKE her. I am a user. I did not choose this, it is natural. For instance, I am laughing too loud at a friend’s house and he wants me to keep it down because his newborn son is asleep. I quiet down. No less than 5 MINUTES LATER, I am howling again :) HAHAHA The problem is not that I am an asshole trying to wake the baby up... I HONESTLY FORGOT that they had a baby at all and that he was asleep :) when they told me to quiet down, it was like realizing for the FIRST TIME that there was a baby sleeping... then I promptly forgot again! :) I say all that to say... I am naturally a user. As long as I am getting whatever I have determined your value is out of you (you give incredible head, you look good so I take you out to make me look good, I can call you @ 2am and go to your house if I strike out sarging and actually give a fuck... whatever) I will remain in contact. When your "value" is used up or no longer available to me, you are NATURALLY erased from my memory. It’s not cruelty, that’s how it works. A sleeping baby has no relevance to me having fun, and neither does a useless chick. OTOH, there are lots of women that I really like as people, LJBFs that I would NEVER have sex with, either because their bodies are NOT the type I want to be next to or their demeanor is so dull that I can’t see them being an out-of-the-ordinary lay. This is the reverse situation, I like them enough to be humane to them (friendly) but they are NOWHERE NEAR appealing enough to have sex with! The two are not related at all for me. On the Third Hand :) I know guys that will discount an ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL, GORGEOUS woman based on her personality HAHAHAHA! Now THAT, I can’t understand :) >Isn’t that the birthright of each >and every human being? - 97 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com Re: How many of you consider yourselves users? / Post 240 again, if you are talking about being safe from violence, yes you are right. If you mean doesn’t every human being deserve to be treated like a USEFUL person to my existance/fun... No! >Has it occurred to anyone here that extremely promiscuous people have >often suffered sexual abuse at the hands of a guardian before consent >and choice were truly possible? what is the relevance of THIS to your prior two statements? seems like a totally different topic. >This using stuff makes me sick. > >Kate This post/article is de facto Copyright © 1999 by "MrSex4uNYC" with rights assigned to Learn The Skills Corp & FastSeduction.com. NO REPRODUCTION WITHOUT PERMISSION. Explicit permission and full agreement to the copyright notice on FastSeduction.com is required for any reproduction. - 98 - MrSex4uNYC via FastSeduction.com DISCLAIMER DISCLAIMER ^ GO BACK TO THE FIRST PAGE ^ "Fast Seduction 101" and "Fast Seduction" are registered trademarks owned by Learn The Skills Corp (owner of FastSeduction.com also known as "Fast Seduction 101"). 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Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 184 . . . . . . . . . Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 185 . . . . . . . . . Re: Here’s To My Wingman! / Post 186 . . . . . . . . Re: who is BLACK here? / Post 187 . . . . . . . . . Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 188 . . . . . . Re: Wingmen -- they’re hard to find. / Post 189 . . . . . . Re: Maniacs various replies to questions and other c... / Post 190 . . Re: Evening Report: Ms HB Seoul watches lambada and d... / Post 191 Re: Characteristics of a good talker / conversationalist / Post 192 . . Re: What’s a 10? was: half black girl / Post 193 . . . . . . Re: God! The competition! / Post 194 . . . . . . . . . Re: The BIG Question. / Post 195 . . . . . . . . . . Re: The second chat / Post 196 . . . . . . . . . . Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 197 . . . . . . . Re: Maniac: follow up comments to Ms. Seoul HB report / Post 198 . Re: how to respond? / Post 199 . . . . . . . . . . Re: No sex! / Post 200 . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Outing Report: Elvis who!?!? ;-) / Post 201 . . . . . . Re: No sex! / Post 202 . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: No sex! / Post 203 . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: The second chat / Post 204 . . . . . . . . . . Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 205 . . . . . . . Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 206 . . . . . . . Re: My First Try / Post 207 . . . . . . . . . . . Re: No sex! / Post 208 . . . . . . . . . . . . Re: [fixed repost]: Outing report: The bad PU and per... / Post 209 . . Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 210 . . . . . . . . . . Re: My First Try / Post 211 . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Burning Bridges - Question for masters. / Post 212 . . . . Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 213 . . . . . . . . . Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 214 . . . . . . . . . Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 215 . . . . . . Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 216 . . . . . . . . Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 217 . . . . . . . Re: Manchester Friday / Post 218 . . . . . . . . . . Re: girlfriends sister / Post 219 . . . . . . . . . . Re: Manchester Friday / Post 220 . . . . . . . . . . Re: My First Try / Post 221 . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Quick! Not me though. / Post 222 . . . . . . . . . Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 223 . . . . . Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 224 . . . . . . Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 225 . . . . . . . . Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 226 . . . . . . . . . . Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 227 . . . . . Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 228 . . . . . . . . . . Re: BoJonn Seduction Concepts (amended/Beautiful Women) / Post 229 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 2 3 5 6 7 8 9 11 12 13 16 18 20 21 22 24 26 27 29 32 33 34 35 37 38 39 40 42 43 44 48 50 52 55 56 57 58 59 61 65 66 69 71 73 74 75 76 78 79 80 -i- Table of Contents Re: The Potentials of Bodybuilding / Post 230 . . . . . . Re: I Challenge This Group. / Post 231 . . . . . . . . Re: Help: My GF doesnt do blowjobs! / Post 232 . . . . . Re: How to transform From Average Friendly Chump to M... / Post 233 Re: MrSex4uNYC: how can I e-mail you? / Post 234 . . . . Re: NYC, why not go to dance floor? / Post 235 . . . . . Re: Mystery’s insight / Post 236 . . . . . . . . . Re: A magic word. / Post 237 . . . . . . . . . . Re: Do players ever fall in love? / Post 238 . . . . . . . Re: For FUCK’S Sake / Post 239 . . . . . . . . . Re: How many of you consider yourselves users? / Post 240 . . DISCLAIMER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 82 . 83 . 84 . 85 . 87 . 88 . 90 . 92 . 94 . 96 . 97 . 99 . - ii -